Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Oh Bennett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hand-wringing of Celtic-esque proportions. Who is trying to prevent sevco being promoted? Wind your neck in vhictim. Merely replying to two clowns not happy about sevco going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Don't understand why everyone wants to make a 14 team setup so confusing. Just play everyone 3 times = 39 games. 1 x home & 1 away guaranteed 3rd round-robin dictated by seeding from the previous years final rankings (i.e. if 2 were promoted relegated 1st from the championship would take the 13th seed and 2nd would take the 14th). Alternate home and away as you go down the table, with the extra home game going to the odd teams, and being against the even team directly below them i.e. 1st at home v 2nd. You can even split the gate receipts for it if you want. Example matrix of who plays who: Or on the basis that no-one was relegated this season, here's the example of where the extra 3rd round of games would go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 With a 14 you also could do play each other twice to bring it up to 26, then a 7/7 split again playing twice to make 38. No idea why you'd actually want to do that though, 12 and a split is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 16 8/8 split 'A' league. 16 8/8 split 'B' league. 18 team regional 3 way split. I'll be the first to admit my desire for a bigger league is partially for selfish reasons that we're more likely to be in it and we'd be a bigger fish in the 2nd tier if we ever fell into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 16 team league would be perfect yet we stick with the ridiculous split and tiresome and boring second, potentially third visits to stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Don't understand why everyone wants to make a 14 team setup so confusing. Just play everyone 3 times = 39 games. 1 x home & 1 away guaranteed 3rd round-robin dictated by seeding from the previous years final rankings (i.e. if 2 were promoted relegated 1st from the championship would take the 13th seed and 2nd would take the 14th). I'm pretty happy with the current set-up, but I just wanted to pitch in with another option for the 14 team, playing 3x format. I think there are some countries which actually determine the third round of fixtures based on the teams' positions after the first two rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor challenger Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Don't understand why this thread continues to grow. The current set up works well enough and won't change.......certainly not now that Sevco have been promoted. Just a pointless wishful thinking exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Don't understand why this thread continues to grow. The current set up works well enough and won't change.......certainly not now that Sevco have been promoted.Just a pointless wishful thinking exercise.Because it's horrific in nearly every way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Because it's horrific in nearly every way I'm personally in favour of bigger leagues, just so that there's more variety in opponents and less of the same fixtures all the time, but why is the current setup "horrific"? The last few years have actually been really exciting since the introduction of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm pretty happy with the current set-up, but I just wanted to pitch in with another option for the 14 team, playing 3x format. I think there are some countries which actually determine the third round of fixtures based on the teams' positions after the first two rounds. I'm pretty happy with the current set-up too but I wouldn't be averse to a 14 team league (I don't think we'd have enough quality to merit a 16). My biggest gripe with anyone suggesting a 14 team league though has always been the setup they'd be after. 3 round robins with the 3rd one being pre-determined by position the year before is the only workable and sensible one I can think of. There'd be a slight fixture imbalance over the home and away aspect and who gets to play who where, but we already have that. I'm going to write-off the more convoluted systems as nobody wants a confusing structure like that posted further up the page. It would be hard to market and get people not involved in the Scottish game to understand. The complicated structures almost all lead to lots of meaningless games or kill a bit of competition too early. The reasons the other systems wouldn't work though: Deciding the 3rd round-robin fixtures based on positions after the first two rounds: This season County, Hamilton & Kilmarnock reached the 26 game point (the end of the first 2RR's) on 13/02, meanwhile Partick and ICT were only on 23. The risk of backlog in fixtures is too much at that point in the year. Even with the system we have, had one result gone differently (Partick & County drawing prior to the split), we'd have been waiting on ICT to play a backlogged game before fixtures could have been decided. 2RR's + 2RR's of a 7/7 Split: This has the exact same problem as the one above. It also leads to the requirement for extra matchdays, 2 different teams sitting it out each week post-split including on the last week, and it increases the likelihood of meaningless mid-table games. That's why if (and only if) we wanted to go to a 14-team structure, my system a couple of posts back of 3 round-robins with the 3rd RR based on a rigid seeding system from the previous years finishing positions would be the one to use IMO. Any confusion by media or people outwith Scotland as to why one team has more home games than another would be quickly forgotten anyway as once the full fixture list is announced at the start of the season that would be it. And nobody really gets in a fuss about it with the current system pre-split. It's only post-split anyone ever complains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Because it's horrific in nearly every way So to fix that we should weaken the quality by bringing in diddy teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So to fix that we should weaken the quality by bringing in diddy teams? I, for one, would welcome beating Hibs & Falkirk more regularly (2-1 & 7-0 this season respectively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So to fix that we should weaken the quality by bringing in diddy teams? Even a 10 team league with no split would be better than this, or a 12 with two round robins and a double split. I personally favour a simple 16 team 30 game league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Merely replying to two clowns not happy about sevco going up. The key words there are going and up, remind me how this sorry state of affairs all began and how your club ended up in a position where it took an extra year to 'get back to where we belong'?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Quite happy with the current system but if we decide to go to a 14 team set up at some point, keep the split and have it at 6/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The key words there are going and up, remind me how this sorry state of affairs all began and how your club ended up in a position where it took an extra year to 'get back to where we belong'?. Yes that smiley hides your anger at the very idea of sevco getting preferential treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yes that smiley hides your anger at the very idea of sevco getting preferential treatment. What preferential treatment did sevco get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor challenger Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Because it's horrific in nearly every way Sorry, but no. It might suffer a bit because of the repetition of fixtures but the current set up works pretty well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Sorry, but no. It might suffer a bit because of the repetition of fixtures but the current set up works pretty well for me. Well then you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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