sergie's no1 fan Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I did say it would be hard, not impossible. And LVG is a very overrated manager, hasn't done much of note since 1995. I wasn't having a pop at you, it was a dig at United . They look even worse than they did under Moyes. Imagine if its Pep v Jose in the Manc derbies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Somewhere in the middle, although leaning towards overrated for me. I would have liked to have seen him take over at a club that didn't necessarily have just a couple of steps to the top. City should be absolutely demolishing the EPL as it is now with their resources, and with the club putting a lot of money into infrastructure, they're set up well already. I can see him going in there, being successful, and continuing to be hailed as the greatest ever. In no way am I saying he's a bad manager, but I would have really liked to have seen him at a club like, say, Liverpool. One outside the top tier of the nation they're in, but that potential to really push on. Or Spurs or something like that. One thing's for sure though, we're in for an absolute circle-jerk once he gets here, which will only get worse once The Fallen Mou-ssiah (I bet that comes up) rejoins. They'll be ripping the heid off it if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 He's spent about £450m in 6 years of management, it would be hard not to improve any squad doing that. I think this will be a very big test for Pep, Barca and Bayern are clubs that have limited competition in their respective leagues, it won't be like that at City. Plus he doesn't have the 'big name' club to attract players. Point taken, but it's still possible to spend an insane amount of money and go backwards. Obviously there are more clubs in England capable of challenging, but in Spain Guardiola had a challenge from a Real Madrid team that had spent outrageous sums of money themselves, had Ronaldo from Pep's second season onwards, in that second season they set a then record high points total for Real Madrid and Barcelona still finished above them. Winning three La Ligas out of four was impressive even considering the talent at his disposal. We currently have a situation in England where all the big clubs are underperforming. Leicester are top of the league in February and there's a fair chance this season's winners will have the lowest points total for the champions in 20 years. Man City have already drawn 5 and lost 5 out of 24 yet they're still only three points off the top. No one in England is very good right now. If Guardiola can tempt the best players - some will be attracted by the idea of playing for him rather than playing for Man City, along with massive wages of course - and over a couple of years builds a squad that even comes close to Barcelona or Bayern Munich, or even just gets this squad to be consistent in a league where none of the title contenders are capable of consistency, they'll absolutely stroll it. Being up against more clubs who see themselves as realistic contenders doesn't mean it's more difficult when none of those teams are very good. The squad he'll inherit at Man City will obviously be far inferior to the squad he inherited at Barcelona, but the gap from Man City to the next best squad in the division will probably be bigger than the gap between Barcelona's squad and Real Madrid's squad was in his second and third seasons there when he still won the league. We'll have to wait and see what's going on with Man Utd and Chelsea by the time next season starts, but right now I don't accept that winning the Premier League with Man City is harder than winning La Liga with Barcelona was when Guardiola was in charge, his first season at Barcelona aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Surely given their financial power, winning the epl wont be his benchmark at city, if he spends 4 years at city, say a good few hundred million on players, wins the epl 4 in a row but fails to make even a cl final nevermind win it, there will still be doubts over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Apparently he has agreed to manage Qatar at the 2022 World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think he is a genius, but the way some are going on about him as if just because he's arrived at Man City - that's next year's league decided is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymcp Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think he's a bit of a myth. Will be interesting to see how he deals with the English media and the 24/7 criticism that will follow when he has a bad run at City. Seems a bit thin skinned and lacks charisma IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yep, it's not like he's ever managed a big club and been under high media scrutiny before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 the media scrutiny at Barcelona and Munich is massive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymcp Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 the media scrutiny at Barcelona and Munich is massive Just think the English media seem a bit more brutal and him being put on such a pedestal coming in they'll be loads waiting to knock him down. He's had it easy at Bayern and left Barca when the going got tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The Spanish media can be absolutely brutal. Don't know about the Germans though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 They're not called FC Hollywood for nothing. The English media are p***ks to a man but I'm sure he'll manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He is both. Easily.However the best managers, the absolute geniuses and the innovators of the game get, at most, seven years up there before the other managers click on and figure out a way to beat it. Pep's a bit different as he's learnt to adapt as well and isn't stuck to tika-taka but, no matter how much he changes, and even improves, Pep at Bayern was never gonna be as succesful as Pep at Barca and Pep and Man City, probably, wont be as succesful as either. But what do I know? Claudio Ranieri's winning the league playing a 4-4-2 with Danny Simpson in the side for f**k's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I, for one, am shocked* that the only people really questioning Pep Guardiola's management ability seem to be the bigoted Old Firm thickos. *I'm not shocked really, they're absolute scummy fucking morons to a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Dunno. Got two players for each position and the majority of the squad would fit into his usual set up. He'll certainly be after a left back and a central midfielder tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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