Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, EH75 said: Not sure this will work. Alcoholism is an addiction. Won't said addicts just still buy the same amount of drink but have less money to spend on other stuff such as feeding their kids? And the casual drinkers will just have to spend another couple of quid on their alcohol. I mean, heroin and coke addicts don't stop just because it's expensive. People still smoke despite the astronomical cost to their wallet and their health. What's the difference with alcohol? Think long-term instead of short term. Current addicts should seek the available help, others will be deterred from becoming addicts, primarily the young. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Except the "SNP Government" can't raise taxes on any products, sinful or otherwise. The British government were interested in this idea as well. It might well happen UK wide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The British government were interested in this idea as well. It might well happen UK wide. Would it then be a fantastic idea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: You can often get a litre of Grouse or Bells for £15 in the supermarkets. Minimum will now be £20 I think. 28 units so the minimum would still be £14.00. My only worry is if shops put the prices up unnecessarily in order to make a quick buck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, mizfit said: Would it then be a fantastic idea? No, it would still be shit. I have no liking for any particular political party. This is not simply because it's the SNP suggesting it that I don't like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: 28 units so the minimum would still be £14.00. My only worry is if shops put the prices up unnecessarily in order to make a quick buck. 40 units in a litre. A bottle's only 70cl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 If nothing else it will help the nation’s maths skills as we become fantastic at working out the best product to buy in terms of percentage of alcohol to price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: That's a strange connection to make. Not really, What you see as a “controlling government” is what I see as a government promoting social responsibility. If we all lived in a bubble and what we did had not impact on others then fair enough, but we live in a society where our actions impact upon others and vice versa hence the need for government action. It would be nice if everyone acted responsibly then there would no need for such legislation, unfortunately that is not the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 40 units in a litre. A bottle's only 70cl. Half Bottle = 14 Units Bottle = 28 Units Litre Bottle = 40 Units. How pished do you need to be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Half Bottle = 14 Units Bottle = 28 Units Litre Bottle = 40 Units. How pished do you need to be? You don’t need to drink it all at once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, 1320Lichtie said: You don’t need to drink it all at once. Even if you contend that the standard unit is 1L it's still not going to be much more than it already is when it's not on offer. Currently £22 in Sainsbury's, on offer at £16.50 (Save £3.50) at Tesco's. It'll be a minimum of £20.00 per 1L in future. Get a grip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) A bottle of wine has 10 units so a minimum of £5? It’s possible to buy wine for less than £5 a bottle but very limited. Edited November 15, 2017 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Even if you contend that the standard unit is 1L it's still not going to be much more than it already is when it's not on offer. Currently £22 in Sainsbury's, on offer at £16.50 (Save £3.50) at Tesco's. It'll be a minimum of £20.00 per 1L in future. Get a grip. Mods, please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Even if you contend that the standard unit is 1L it's still not going to be much more than it already is when it's not on offer. Currently £22 in Sainsbury's, on offer at £16.50 (Save £3.50) at Tesco's. It'll be a minimum of £20.00 per 1L in future. Get a grip. Telling me to get a grip for you cheeky c**t? I have no problem with it. Just think it’s a lot of shite and won’t solve anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 So we're agreed that it would need to be much higher than 50p per unit to make an impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: A bottle of wine has 10 units so a minimum of £5? It’s possible to buy wine for less than £5 a bottle but very limited. Some wine will still be less than the average ABV so it'll still be possible to buy some for less than a fiver. Might be less than appealing though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, EH75 said: Not sure this will work. Alcoholism is an addiction. Won't said addicts just still buy the same amount of drink but have less money to spend on other stuff such as feeding their kids? And the casual drinkers will just have to spend another couple of quid on their alcohol. I mean, heroin and coke addicts don't stop just because it's expensive. People still smoke despite the astronomical cost to their wallet and their health. What's the difference with alcohol? It may well not stop an addict but it might make casual drinkers more casual, it's about time, we're a nation where too many people think they need tanked up to enjoy themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Telling me to get a grip for you cheeky c**t? I have no problem with it. Just think it’s a lot of shite and won’t solve anything. It wasn't directed at you per se, just a generality. Would it help if all sorts of health professionals believe that it'll make a tremendous difference? http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15662707.Minimum_alcohol_pricing__Health_campaigners_hail__massive_victory_for_health_and_democracy_/ Edited November 15, 2017 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Telling me to get a grip for you cheeky c**t? I have no problem with it. Just think it’s a lot of shite and won’t solve anything. He seems desperate to create an argument over absolutely anything. All I said was a litre of whisky would be a minimum of £20 whereas you can often get it now as low as £15. Didn't even say whether I thought it was a good idea or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, ayrmad said: It may well not stop an addict but it might make casual drinkers more casual, it's about time, we're a nation where too many people think they need tanked up to enjoy themselves. It may also cut down on binge drinking and help prevent people becoming alcoholics in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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