Genuine Hibs Fan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Was that all she did? I mean, just being English isn't an offence everywhere..... Did you not read it? She said she was English and she was arrested and thrown in jail. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 must be more to it than that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, BigDoddyKane said: must be more to it than that No, she said she was English and she was arrested and thrown in jail which is what happens these days 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Watching the Parliament channel, and the urgent question on the calamity that is the Ajax armoured vehicle procurement.I await the usual suspects who keep bringing up ferries,making a comment on this £5bn. cock up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Macron just got slapped , I shouldnt laugh but it was quite funny. Very French https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57402753 Edited June 8, 2021 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 hours ago, jakedee said: Watching the Parliament channel, and the urgent question on the calamity that is the Ajax armoured vehicle procurement. I await the usual suspects who keep bringing up ferries,making a comment on this £5bn. cock up. The best bit being the Ajax capability is so central to what the Army wants to do that it falls into the too big to fail pile. Expect several more billion expended to pish it over the finish line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Why does the British military always go down this route of developing something rubbish and expensive instead of just buying something off America?So we can build and sell more to flog to [insert shithole country here] to recoup the development cost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Begs the question why the Saudis etc bother buying our rubbish gear instead of the good stuff from AmericaAmerica lacks the soft power knockout blow of a royal yacht. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pato said: Why does the British military always go down this route of developing something rubbish and expensive instead of just buying something off America? Well, we do that too. Ajax is designed as the armoured reconnaissance platform for the Army. Basically the future concept is for them to act as networked sensor nodes dispersed over wide areas providing information to allow HQs to task long ranged weapons on targets: Any sensor, any effector goes the glib phrase (effector is jargon for big boom thing to me and you) Typically MoD overspend falls into two categories. Gold plating and specification creep. Gold plating is when we develop something that genuinely is world beating, but this means we typically don't buy large numbers of them, driving up unit cost which also kills any export potential. Examples of this would be something like the SAMPSON Radar system on the type 45 destroyers or the Brimstone missile system. Specification creep is the real killer, when the project morphs over a long time frame and forces re-designs and multiple prototypes. The project to deliver Ajax started off as something else way back before the Iraq war, for example. There is now also a third category that has impacted this project since the 2010 SDR: Anyone but BAE. The debacle over the last Nimrod iteration led government ministers to push for greater competition for projects, fearing that BAE was under no pressure to deliver projects on time or budget. So when it offered the established CV90 platform for what would become Ajax, they never really stood a chance. Instead the work went to General Dynamics who agreed to set up a factory in Wales using a Hull form from a Spanish subsidiary that had itself no real track record of success. Ajax is a pretty lethal combination of all three vices. Gold plating the systems: Ajax is designed to give best in market sensors and an all new digital architecture capable of feeding a tonne or real-time data to higher HQs. At the same time they insisted on higher levels of protection and best in class lethality driven by a fairly revolutionary cannon design which took years to get right. Spec. Creep: this whole thing started off as a fairly basic replacement for the aging Scimitar platform back before the Iraq war. Budget was eaten up by those conflicts leading to an ever longer project time frame and constantly changing minds on what capability was needed. This isn't limited to the UK- the US had already cancelled two projects designed to replace the Bradley fighting vehicle. Anyone but BAE: so instead of developing revolutionary systems and putting them on an established platform with an existing supply chain, they elected to get a company who'd never done this kind of vehicle on this kind of scale using some fairly sub standard contractors as well. Edited June 9, 2021 by renton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Why does the British military always go down this route of developing something rubbish and expensive instead of just buying something off America?It’s not like America doesn’t develop a load of white elephants anaw. Suppose it’s the same in every other sector where the government flings a ton of money at their pals for shite that doesn’t work but enriches the right folk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pato said: Gold plated post. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/changes-to-constituency-boundaries-predicted-to-give-tories-majority-of-100-mt2hr2f22 Changes to constituency boundaries predicted to give Tories majority of 100 Yoons: "This is fine". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/changes-to-constituency-boundaries-predicted-to-give-tories-majority-of-100-mt2hr2f22 Changes to constituency boundaries predicted to give Tories majority of 100 Yoons: "This is fine". Unless they are deliberately gerrymandering the boundaries I don’t think there can be any objections. The real issue is the inherently undemocratic nature of FPTP not the redrawing of boundaries. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Unless they are deliberately gerrymandering the boundaries I don’t think there can be any objections. The real issue is the inherently undemocratic nature of FPTP not the redrawing of boundaries. Yes, I think the boundary changes are probably fair, but you’re right. FPTP is totally unfair. The worst example was probably UKIP who got shed loads of votes across the country but zero seats. I certainly think we need to change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Passed a fuel station on the way here,30p a litre for fuel in oil rich Azerbaijan states the commentator at the Wales Switzerland match.If only... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 Patel saying it’s OK for England fans to boo the players who take the knee. She’s beyond despicable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Patel saying it’s OK for England fans to boo the players who take the knee. She’s beyond despicable. Surely it’s okay to boo and to applause. Totally up to the fan to decide what they want to do. whether you like it or not people associate TTK with BLM, the organisation. Thats a fact. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic sign Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Surely it’s okay to boo and to applause. Totally up to the fan to decide what they want to do. whether you like it or not people associate TTK with BLM, the organisation. Thats a fact.Whether you like it or not racists will boo the players and they will rely on people like you to defend their right to do so. You can try and spin it anyway you want, but that's also a fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Patel saying it’s OK for England fans to boo the players who take the knee. And she is right. It has become the worst expression of gesture politics and needs to be stopped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, magic sign said: 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Surely it’s okay to boo and to applause. Totally up to the fan to decide what they want to do. whether you like it or not people associate TTK with BLM, the organisation. Thats a fact. Whether you like it or not racists will boo the players Booing doesn't make you a racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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