Ad Lib Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 'We're up to our knees in ****** blood surrender or you'll die' is both threatening and abusive. I don't see how. No reasonable person could construe the singing of that song as issuing an actual ultimatum to all Irish Catholics in the vicinity to surrender or face death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 when the Tartan Army sing """I'd rather wear a turban than a rose" What?!?!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 How can you equate the sash with the Billy boys?? Do you know the lyrics of the sash? The sash glorifies no more a horrible historic battle than "flower of Scotland". But it's old... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 What?!?!? Apparently, "I'd rather wear a turban than a rose" is a new ditty. At least 40 years ago, "I'd rather wear a turban than a sash" was a common chant, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Why when Airdrie fans sing the same song but sing "up to our knees in Motherwell blood" is the song no longer abusive? From what I remember the act doesn't specify that only reference to protected characteristics is a breach of law. The most offensive thing about that is "Motherwell" is one syllable too many. You'd think they at least have the imagination to swap in "Steel Men" instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The most offensive thing about that is "Motherwell" is one syllable too many. You'd think they at least have the imagination to swap in "Steel Men" instead. Eh? You prefer Erwell? Weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Apparently, "I'd rather wear a turban than a rose" is a new ditty. At least 40 years ago, "I'd rather wear a turban than a sash" was a common chant, though. I've googled it and it seems to be a Welsh song. I've never heard it in all my years home or away and in fact the only thing I can find on google about Scotland fans singing it was fucking HB who went on to say he didn't even hear Scotland fans singing it it was on a train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I've googled it and it seems to be a Welsh song. I've never heard it in all my years home or away and in fact the only thing I can find on google about Scotland fans singing it was fucking HB who went on to say he didn't even hear Scotland fans singing it it was on a train. The only time I have ever heard it is on here. Seeing as the predominant symbol of the english football team is three leopards i wold imagine its a song sung by welsh rugby c***s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 "If you hate the fuxking English" is sung regularly at Scotland games and is a clear breach of the act. No it's not. In pubs and what not before hand I've heard it by small groups but not at Hampden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I go to Scotland games. It was widely sung by a huge number of people at the last England friendly in the stadium. Barely miss a game. I'm not saying it's never happened, I was at that game too though and never heard it. There was barely a peep from the home support actually, it was pish poor and I was sober. But it most definitely does not happen regularly. I've never heard it sung inside the ground at a home game before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 That isn't abusive. That's offensive, and it glorifies abuse. But it isn't abusive. "Abusive" and "Offensive" are synonyms. It's quite a stretch to say that one isn't the other, especially in this context. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Singing it in a pub on route to a match is also an offence. Only if you're lifted and 'a reasonable person' would be offended by it - whether he or she existed or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 "Abusive" and "Offensive" are synonyms. They aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 They aren't.They are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 "If you hate the fuxking English" is sung regularly at Scotland games and is a clear breach of the act. I assume there is a reason you have quoted me and then written this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Farting is offensive, it's not abusive. Synonym - a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close. He can "shut his face" but to "close his face" seems incorrect. "Shut" and "close" are, however, as close to being the same thing as to render any claims that they are different as being an exercise in tedium. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Why when Airdrie fans sing the same song Yup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 They are. You can be abusive without being offensive and VV. Like many words they have domains of meaning...they can overlap but certainly don't exactly match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 "Shut" and "close" are, however, as close to being the same thing as to render any claims that they are different as being an exercise in tedium. 'shut' and 'close' aren't synonyms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 You can be abusive without being offensive and VV. Like many words they have domains of meaning...they can overlap but certainly don't exactly match. "Exactly or nearly the same". Here's another, from Collins - Main Entry: abusive Part of Speech: adjective Definition: exhibiting unkind behavior or words Synonyms: calumniating, castigating, censorious, contumelious, defamatory, derisive, disparaging, insolent, insulting, invective, libelous, maligning, obloquious, offensive, opprobrious, reproachful, reviling, rude, sarcastic, scathing, scolding, scurrilous, sharp-tongued, slanderous, traducing, upbraiding, vilifying, vituperative 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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