Kapowzer Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, well fan for life said: When you copy someone's homework but try not to make it obvious. Yeah we would have used that to remind folks there’s an ABBA tribute act in the Centenary coming up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Hammell has charmed the girls to a victory at Hibs, I assume he showed his face at training through the week.Does he have to show his face in person, or does an image of his face work the same, like the weeping angels of Doctor Who lore? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Nearly 12 hours into the new week and no signings, talk about wasting the feel-good factor. Silence is deafening etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one m in Motherwell Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 #aNnOUnCeSNodDy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Quote Robert Snodgrass today signed for XYZ. IN a statement Robert said: "I'd like to thank Motherwell for their interest and help allowing me to get this better deal, their involvement really put me on the radar. My agent played a blinder here, the 24 hours thing was a thing of beauty." Snoddy then grabbed the badge of his new shirt and kissed it. Edited August 22, 2022 by Kapowzer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Richie said: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RostokMcSpoons Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Richie said: He's gone distinctly off-message on that (Apparently everyone in the league(s?) will get an extra £200K if Rangers win, plus it'll help repair the damage (we) inflicted on the coefficient, and so Flow thinks that's worth supporting them for) Though I think KVV's position is eminently understandable, from several perspectives Edited August 22, 2022 by RostokMcSpoons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Richie said: That alone gives him a "5 free shite games" voucher from me. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Why would Dutchman Kevin van Veen, who supported PSV as a child, want them to lose? How is this nonsense even a story? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: He's gone distinctly off-message on that (Apparently everyone in the league(s?) will get an extra £200K if Rangers win, plus it'll help repair the damage (we) inflicted on the coefficient, and so Flow thinks that's worth supporting them for) Though I think KVV's position is eminently understandable, from several perspectives When I seen the headline I initially raised an eyebrow but when you read the article he isn’t urging anybody to support them just that it will help cover the unbudgeted increase in energy costs etc. For a man in his position he is talking absolute sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, gannonball said: When I seen the headline I initially raised an eyebrow but when you read the article he isn’t urging anybody to support them just that it will help cover the unbudgeted increase in energy costs etc. For a man in his position he is talking absolute sense. Aye, he clarified that to someone who was calling him out on it. Similarly he was quick to serve his receipts to a guy who was giving it "Nope can't recall a single instance of @Alan_Burrows telling everyone in Scottish football to get behind Celtic in anytime we've been trying to get through the qualifiers". I mean, for avoidance of doubt I want Rangers to lose literally every game they play but he's consistent with his position (I'm also not a chief executive of a football club). Edited August 22, 2022 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Swello said: That alone gives him a "5 free shite games" voucher from me. You're only giving him a 1 extra game extension? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 More of a hypothetical as he's off to St Mirren again, but would any of you taken Gogic? Perfectly good midfielder at our level, offered good protection to a still shaky defence and a step up from the departed Donnelly. He's 28 so in his prime. I suppose you'd have to debate who would be dropped to allow him into the squad. Slattery is our best baller, Spittal put the numbers on the board last season and with Goss has had a few good games so far. Cornelius continuing to evolve and improve in the right direction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Kapowzer said: More of a hypothetical as he's off to St Mirren again, but would any of you taken Gogic? Perfectly good midfielder at our level, offered good protection to a still shaky defence and a step up from the departed Donnelly. He's 28 so in his prime. I suppose you'd have to debate who would be dropped to allow him into the squad. Slattery is our best baller, Spittal put the numbers on the board last season and with Goss has had a few good games so far. Cornelius continuing to evolve and improve in the right direction. I'd have taken him. You could debate whether you need him every game (as Slattery-DC-Goss have just shown) but I think not having a single reliable six in your squad is odd. Maguire still hasn't got there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) It's academic now but with Gogic there's probably a reason why he's been a good fit for Accies and St Mirren but looked like a fish out of water at Hibs. We're only a handful of games in with Hammell but of our 4 games so far we've had more possession and passed the ball more than the opposition in 3 of them. As @thisGRAEME mentioned after St Johnstone - we made more passes in that game than any last season under Alexander. 31/07: St Mirren - 51% possession, 367 passes vs 342 06/08: St Johnstone - 57% possession, 475 passes vs 350 13/08: Aberdeen - 40% possession, 297 passes vs 481 20/08: Livi - 58% possession, 409 passes vs 299 It seems relevant that we've had Goss in as the midfield 1 in this 4141 so far. He's not there to put tackles in and disrupt - he's there to get on the ball and try to make passes. If this is the direction we're going with Hammell - and it seems to be given the comments from the players about training being more possession based and focussed on short, quick passing - it probably means that what a player is like 'on the ball' is going to be something that we're considering more than we ever did when Robinson was here (and to a lesser extent Alexander) given SR's view was that sort of stuff was 'coachable' - his priorities were physical attributes like pace and physicality. So from that point of view Gogic - a brick shithouse who's fairly limited on the ball but can cover a couple of positions - feels like a good fit for Robboball but (IMO) less so for what Hammell seems to be trying to put together. TL,DR - Gogic? Not for me, Clive. (Fwiw, I agree with @Handsome_Devil that we could do with a 6 - though an Ally Gorrin type would probably be a better fit than a Gogic IMO) Edited August 23, 2022 by capt_oats 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosser1886 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, capt_oats said: It seems relevant that we've had Goss in as the midfield 1 in this 4141 so far. He's not there to put tackles in and disrupt - he's there to get on the ball and try to make passes. Exactly, you would have thought that the guy that signed him would have been aware of that. Edited August 23, 2022 by Dosser1886 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Early days but Goss has been the single biggest beneficiary of the change of approach - if we can live with the fact that he's never going to be pressing someone for 90 mins and flying into tackles (basically being Wee Al) - when he's doing what he's actually good at, he's been really effective so far. To that end, I wondered about Gogic too - when you have 2 players in Slattery and Goss that are pretty limited defensively but do the other stuff well - would it actually be useful to have a destructive bastart in the mix? Edited August 23, 2022 by Swello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Dosser1886 said: Exactly, you would have thought that the guy that signed him would have been aware of that. We've spent 6 months playing hoofball up to Shields & van Veen so I'll assume he had no fucking clue what's going on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I’m reluctant to think Goss has done the Lamie redemption arc with so little to base it on, but it is encouraging. i think Gogic would have given us options because by the second round of fixtures come around teams start to combat what made you effective in the first. You need to mix things up. It’s just at present it feels like a lightweight midfield. Slattery gets in about it but part of his game is to fall over and win a foul. Cornelius is a wee terrier but not overly physically imposing. Don’t think we can count on Morris or Spittal to be tacklers. So far, to his credit, Hammy hasn’t needed to show all his cards. I think we’re all just happy being entertained again. Based on where we are I’d doubt the irons in the fire Flao mentioned are anything out with our alert areas. Midfield feels stocked up on paper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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