Al B Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I'm just fed up with the whole thing. That's about all I've got left to say. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonicg Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Fingers crossed Butcher comes in tomorrow morning at training and just lamps the lot of them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, Al B said: I'm just fed up with the whole thing. That's about all I've got left to say. this is where I am at too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellboy1991 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: this is where I am at too. Yip, I’m the same. It’s demoralising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 51 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Goss lost his man then shouted at everyone else. I can't mind the other goals just now. Slattery fell down (again), tried but failed to bring his man down - he had been on for 2 minutes at this stage - then the defence froze as they faced a runner with the ball, a simple pass, SOD fell down, a nice chip for the goal then a lot of pointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) I've made peace with getting relegated. For a club our size, it's an inevitability at some stage and in our 37 years up here, bigger clubs than us have been relegated multiple times. There's obviously no guarantee we'd come straight back up, so my biggest gripe is probably that, being too young to remember 1991, that every man and their dug has won a trophy since then and I've still not seen us lift one. Personally, I've become very apathetic towards it all and as much as I'm obviously still interested, I can feel myself regressing into an armchair fan and properly have to motivate myself to go out to games. Being entertained by a Motherwell team has been very scarce since probably around January 2020. There's absolutely nothing about this team. No leaders, no characters, no dig, no players who seem that arsed. I just find it sad that it's the man who's played the most games for us in this top flight era that's potentially going to take us out of it. Hammell is one of my all time favourite players and I can't help but think for everyone's sake, he just needs to be put out of his misery. I'm like a broken record with this, but I honestly can't believe he gave up a secure job in the academy for this. Edited February 5, 2023 by crazylegsjoe_mfc 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I'm finding myself semi-invested in Accies/Airdie results recently solely because if we're in the Championship it'd be slightly more interesting if we had the derbies again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Personally I've become invested in the whole league reconstruction idea. Definitely think that expansion is the way forward. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Derry Alli said: I've long thought this too. If the players aren't happy with training etc.. put the extra work in yourselves. Don't just dien tools and not do the job you've already proven you're capable of doing. If the manager then decides to take you all out the firing line - then that's solely on him. See tbh, I'd be amazed if you can find a player in the league that will take responsibility on the field and do something other than what the manager has told them to, regardless of how daft or wrong they think it is. It's a selfish business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 We’ve gambled with relegation for a few years now. One of these times we were bound to get caught out. This year it seems the case. I don’t think we’ll end up like Dunfermline / Falkirk but instead similar to Dundee just stuck in a constant loop. Hammell must give the new boys a chance in Kirkcaldy. Playing the same players that have let him down all season would be an indictment that he doesn’t know how to fix this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: I'm finding myself semi-invested in Accies/Airdie results recently solely because if we're in the Championship it'd be slightly more interesting if we had the derbies again. That’s 2 teams that are guaranteed to beat us next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: Personally, I've become very apathetic towards it all and as much as I'm obviously still interested, I can feel myself regressing into an armchair fan and properly have to motivate myself to go out to games. ... I'm like a broken record with this, but I honestly can't believe he gave up a secure job in the academy for this. It's obviously different for me living abroad so I enjoy every game I actually get to - or rather, the ritual of going, seeing mates for a beer etc. I'm hopeful of press ganging at least one of the kids along in summer too which I'm looking forward to. But that's also largely why I I think we'll be fine, initially, in the Championship. Football clubs and fans are much more resilient than people think as very few of them actually go solely for the 90 minutes. If we cross our fingers for Dundee being the only side going up this time, we would be definite favourites for promotion next season even with an overhaul being needed. Throw in Hamilton and Airdrie as derbies, some away days to rarely seen grounds, another cup competition for a giggle etc and you have the potential for absolutely epic season that'll get everyone more than on board again. The danger of course being one season turns into more, then we really are in bother...and though we'd be favourites, it'd be marginal - you're essentially looking at 50-50 or maybe 60-40 games virtually every week. I'm not convinced we'd do a Dunfermline but the potential to slip into the middle of the pack is also definitely there. Agree completely on Hammell, it seemed mental at the time and all the more so when he (presumably) approved Clarkson as replacement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) We absolutely cannot be accepting relegation. I genuinely think it will be the beginning of a long road down for us and a long long time out of the top flight. The whole romantic idea of going down, seeing some different grounds, crowds swelling I'm size is an absolute fantasy in my opinion. Funding will drop across the board, player quality will be worse, the academy will take a hit and be cut in places, the fans won't suddenly bump up WS subs to fund a quick return, we will be quickly on par with the majority of the championship clubs and become a Partick Thistle. That's the reality (albeit a little half glass empty I admit...) Edited February 5, 2023 by eliphas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, eliphas said: The whole romantic idea of going down, seeing some different grounds, crowds swelling I'm size is an absolute fantasy. Aye, it’s good in the cup, but travelling to these places and getting beat every week quickly takes the shine away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I want to see Motherwell win the Scottish Cup and that's infinitely harder when you're in the Championship 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 01/01/2023 at 13:40, ropy said: I think I would enjoy it for a year, look for a promotion push in year 2 and fear for the worst in year 3. I stand by my New Years resolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) I mean, I'd prefer to avoid finding out how we'd get on in the Championship altogether tbh. Along with others on here I'm one of the "never seen us relegated" (but have see us win the Scottish Cup) crowd and it's a nice group to be in IMO. I imagine it's one thing to be relegated because we're broadly shite but another to be relegated because we're obviously shite and didn't do anything about it. It'd be even more mind blowing if we chose not to do anything about it out of some sort of misplaced loyalty to an inexperienced manager who, as I type, is on a run of 1 league win in 15 and stands as having our 3rd worst win % since 1911. Let's not do that. On one hand I don't get Hammell decision to leave the relatively secure Academy role but at the same time I can see how you could lose the run of yourself and over commit - especially after winning the opening game against St Mirren. That said, it takes some amount of chutzpah to think "Yeah, I've no first team managerial experience but how hard can it be?" Edited February 5, 2023 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: See tbh, I'd be amazed if you can find a player in the league that will take responsibility on the field and do something other than what the manager has told them to, regardless of how daft or wrong they think it is. It's a selfish business. Aren't you confusing footballer with fishmonger? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Don't get me wrong, I don't want to get relegated either and would be binning Hammell now to try to avoid it whether we decide to go short or long-term with his replacement. I just don't think it'll definitely be the apocalyptic event some predict. It might be but doesn't have to be by any means. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I wasn't expecting him to be sacked on a Sunday but I sort of assumed ITK folk would be on by now saying he's as good as gone tomorrow. Like... this is not a fucking normal way to manage a football team you plan on remaining in charge of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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