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Certainly something to consider. Kettlewell could be a front with Tommo pulling all the strings behind the scenes. Our own version of the Hopkin/Martindale scenario at Livi. 

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1 minute ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

Clichés aside,  I do think Van Veen is due a goal against the Old Firm. I'm not sure he's ever actually touched the ball against Celtic so the Rangers game might be more likely.

He will be suspended soon so may sit out the Celtic game, need to give somebody else a shot at scoring.

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33 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

When did St Mirren last finish with more points and a better goal difference than us?

I believe it was 1989 

Even then they conceded 11 more than us

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Just need to keep it respectable vs the OF. Not gonna deny, the thought of Furlong getting roasted in those games repeatedly especially against Celtic's rapid front line. Don't get the same fear with Max.

Has any presser advised how long Blaney has left on the sidelines? He'd probably be drip fed back in anyway due to the nature of his injury. Just really want to see what Butcher can do in his preferred position. Suspect Kettlewell will be loathe to change the 10 points from a possible 12 formula.

It still angers me were are responsible for over 20% of Kilmarnock's total points.

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8 minutes ago, Doctor Manhattan said:

Aye. Didn't we get 20% of ours from St Mirren, though? We might finish above them yet.

FIngers crossed. I think outwith the OF the order will be Hearts, Livi, Hibs and at present it's a toss up between Aberdeen and St Mirren for 6th. It seems Aberdeen have stabilised to a degree.

If they do end up in the bottom half, our goal difference may be pivotal on the final weekend to gaining a place and the £130k it brings.

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9 hours ago, Kapowzer said:

Has any presser advised how long Blaney has left on the sidelines? He'd probably be drip fed back in anyway due to the nature of his injury. Just really want to see what Butcher can do in his preferred position. Suspect Kettlewell will be loathe to change the 10 points from a possible 12 formula.

Yeah, I don't think he will change it much to be honest and I'd probably do the same.  That said, we have seen Butcher pushed into midfield a couple of times mid game now and I also wouldn't be surprised to see him in there in a couple of weeks v Rangers to firm it up a bit.

If I was betting, I reckon we will see Lamie in before Blaney this season. 

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I wouldn't be moving Butcher anywhere anytime soon tbh.

We've 2 clean sheets in our last 4 games. For context, we hadn't managed a clean sheet in 11 league games prior to Kettlewell pivoting to the back 3.

Right now Butcher feels ideally suited to the role in the middle of the back 3 organising in the same way Hartley was when he first arrived - I'm not sure we've another defender who offers the same.

@Swello's post in the United thread re: the value of good business in the January window vs the manager kind of speaks to a discussion I noticed when I dipped into SO the other day.

This is the post for context:

On 04/03/2023 at 17:17, Great Balls of Shire said:

Hammel brought them in tbf , think hammel is a victim of timing but it wasn't meant to be and SK is benefitting , credit to him , he's getting a tune out of guys who wouldn't do it for hammel 

I mean, I disagree that Hammell was the victim of anything other than having been promoted into a role in which he was out of his depth but it's factually true that the players Kettlewell has been getting a tune from have included Hammell's January signings (Butcher, Casey, Furlong, Obika plus the recalled Max Johnston - that's half a team).

I'm not sure if the intended implication of that post is that Hammell might have fared better had he been given the opportunity to work with them but given his final game had the same players available but in the same shape he'd been failing with along with McGinn at left back, Spittal as the #6 and KVV on the left wing I'd respectfully argue...probably not.

Either way, the fact that half of our January signings have made an initial impact on the first team and Kettlewell has quickly found a shape that for the most part suits the players he has available, (McKinstry and Crankshaw have both been unlucky in that respect), is a positive. Especially given where we were at 11pm on Deadline Day.

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