Wellin Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 15 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Disgraceful wages too, below the living wage. Very poor from the club. Illegal. Am sure they'll need to adjust the salary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Disgraceful wages too, below the living wage. Very poor from the club. Unless I'm missing something it's just above the national living wage? But just below the 'real' living wage one? National - (11.44 x 37.5) X 52 = 22, 308 Real = 23, 400 Wages for what a media assistant should get paid in real life a different argument granted. God I want us to sign someone and for a to start again Edited June 6 by eliphas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, Phillips455 said: Motherwell Fans: looking forward to a new Keeper being announced Motherwell socials: Can we take a minute to enjoy that, in fact, *none* of them are actually wearing claret and amber... Edited June 6 by capt_oats 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 6 minutes ago, eliphas said: Unless I'm missing something it's just above the national living wage? But just below the 'real' living wage one? National - (11.44 x 37.5) X 52 = 22, 308 Real = 23, 400 Wages for what a media assistant should get paid in real life a different argument granted. God I want us to sign someone and for a to start again Yeah, I think it's above minimum wage and below the living wage so I don't think it's illegal. I've no doubt some young fan will do it and I hope they have a blast but I think it's a bit cheeky from the club...it's basically taking advantage of goodwill. Covering a vaguely proper wage - especially given what's been asked for - shouldn't be beyond us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Disgraceful wages too, below the living wage. Very poor from the club. I know it's semantics, but it's below the real living wage but not the national living wage. There's only 56p/hour in it, but it does make a ~£900 difference over the year. Still poor, though. It's £900. Edited June 6 by StAndrew7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellin Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said: Yeah, I think it's above minimum wage and below the living wage so I don't think it's illegal. I've no doubt some young fan will do it and I hope they have a blast but I think it's a bit cheeky from the club...it's basically taking advantage of goodwill. Covering a vaguely proper wage - especially given what's been asked for - shouldn't be beyond us. You're right. As long as its above min wage it's not breaking the law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Sports teams always underpay for roles like that relative to other industries. They know people will be willing to do it because of where they'll be working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 minutes ago, eliphas said: Unless I'm missing something it's just above the national living wage? But just below the 'real' living wage one? National - (11.44 x 37.5) X 52 = 22, 308 Real = 23, 400 Wages for what a media assistant should get paid in real life a different argument granted. God I want us to sign someone and for a to start again Yeah, it meets minimum wage, but as a club aspiring to improve people's lives and be a beacon for the community, not offering the "real" living wage is poor. As a media graduate it pisses me off seeing the amount of unpaid or poorly paid work people are expected to do to make it in the industry, for a community club to try and short change someone is very poor. Knowing the people who are on the Well Society board, I would hope that they would be making representations to the club to be, at worst, a real living wage employer @JayMFCnot sure if that would be something you would be able to bring up or already have? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 37.5 hours a week seems awfy light if you're including travelling up and down the country every other Saturday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Knowing the people who are on the Well Society board, I would hope that they would be making representations to the club to be, at worst, a real living wage employer @JayMFCnot sure if that would be something you would be able to bring up or already have? It came up at AGM a couple of years ago, I believe we decided against becoming accredited as a living wage employer because of issues with contractors or something. Perhaps someone else remembers exactly. But I agree totally, it's a needless black mark not to pay our own full-time employees at least the going rate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Handsome_Devil said: It came up at AGM a couple of years ago, I believe we decided against becoming accredited as a living wage employer because of issues with contractors or something. Perhaps someone else remembers exactly. But I agree totally, it's a needless black mark not to pay our own full-time employees at least the going rate. Aye, it's to do with anyone who's affiliated with the club's operations; so we would need to ensure that anyone working on a match day/in hospitality during the week, even contractors (e.g. kiosk staff, stewards etc.) would need to also come from accredited living wage employers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 On one hand, it's probably a really good job for a recent media graduate to get their foot in the door. On the other, the wage is a disgrace. Anyone who takes the job will be moving elsewhere after 12-18 months and the club will be on the hunt again. Probably a debate for a different topic but I've never understood employers who try to hire for fairly important positions on the cheap. Pay people what they're worth and surely it benefits everyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellin Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 53 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said: Aye, it's to do with anyone who's affiliated with the club's operations; so we would need to ensure that anyone working on a match day/in hospitality during the week, even contractors (e.g. kiosk staff, stewards etc.) would need to also come from accredited living wage employers. Am sure stewards get paid more now (obviously as min wage has risen) and some companies do pay better than others but when I stewarded at Fir Park in 2017 I got 7.20 an hour (wasn't employed by MFC) and the difference between the rate for having your SIA badge and not was 30p an hour. When I got my badge my rate of pay was supposed to go up and it didn't. (I did raise it with the company concerned but no one sorted it). I believe it has changed now but back then you also had to be at the stadium an hour before to collect uniform and you didn't get paid for that time either or travel time (which some companies do pay) and you had to meet as a group with supervisors after for about 30 mins and you didn't get paid for that time either. I believe some security staff are or were employed by MFC - I know they advertised for in house stewards in the past and pretty sure folk employed by MFC got paid better than we did (not that that would have been hard as we got min wage or just above). Edited June 6 by Wellin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 hours ago, StAndrew7 said: I had a proper rant on the fan survey about the state of the Wilkinson post yesterday, this just keeps adding to my rage. I also shared my thoughts on the *comms* question but vaguely related and I suspect this is probably a testament to the previous incumbents who prioritised this sort of thing but anyway, this was thrown up on my TL from Rico: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Are they putting out a month by month recap? I might mute them for now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 5 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Are they putting out a month by month recap? I might mute them for now. We're just getting to the fun bit where we didn't win a game for fucking months though! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWell Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 19 minutes ago, well fan for life said: We're just getting to the fun bit where we didn't win a game for fucking months though! "Mentality monsters " 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) Liam Kelly wasn't technically our highest earner in the squad but he was picking up an extra 22 grand a year to run our Twitter Edit- I've now got this stuck in my head Edited June 6 by YassinMoutaouakil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Liam Kelly wasn't technically our highest earner in the squad but he was picking up an extra 22 grand a year to run our Twitter Edit- I've now got this stuck in my head A banger. The Rakes were brilliant man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanos Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 20 minutes ago, well fan for life said: A banger. The Rakes were brilliant man. Saw them a few times. Brilliant live. Was also at an MTV show they recorded. One of the support bands was called The Testicicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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