Busta Nut Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 MUTUALED 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 McGinley after his 6 hour long chat with Kettlewell this morning. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Fag packet stuff but if we pay KVV £6k a week- not suggesting that's the best use of our cash tbf- that'd be about £100kish between now and the end of May. Surely that's less than we'd be spending on a fee and wages for Nouble? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: When are Blaney and Casey back? I don't love our CB options but unless they start regularly putting in Zak Jules against Dundee performances I'm not sure I'd be prioritising replacing any of them in this window. I agree in that is a position where we have numbers / cover. But the biggest issue this season has been conceding soft as **** goals almost in every game. Saturday against Alloa another case in point. So leaving as is will likely result in similar outcomes. I listened to a Killie fan on SSB the other night saying they just don’t look like conceding goals at the moment. They say (and who am I to argue) that to build a successful team you start at the back. Not saying the CB are all to blame. Kelly has made a mess a few times. But since we are not going to replace him I don’t think it would be a bad idea to try and find an Aldred type. Casey and Butcher both look a long way off the levels they reached end of last season. I tend to agree that it may not happen but I would like it too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 minutes ago, capt_oats said: So long Toby... No harm to him but I'd put McGinley in with Straker and Joe Chalmers as our worst left back of recent times. Seems a nice guy but he had no redeeming features as a footballer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Signing McGinley? I can give the club a pass, he's a left back with height and some pace, so was worth a punt. Extending his contract, however? Nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Ray Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I’m sure Nathan McGinley played televised friendlies against Rangers and I didn’t rate him then was surprised he was signed. Seemed a nice lad, all the best to him hope he can stay fit and get some minutes under him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allroy for Prez Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Fag packet stuff but if we pay KVV £6k a week- not suggesting that's the best use of our cash tbf- that'd be about £100kish between now and the end of May. Surely that's less than we'd be spending on a fee and wages for Nouble? £100k to ward off relegation seems a reasonable amount. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allroy for Prez Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, rowsdower said: Signing McGinley? I can give the club a pass, he's a left back with height and some pace, so was worth a punt. Extending his contract, however? Nope. Genuine madness from Alexander. Should’ve got his jotters for that alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Allroy for Prez said: Genuine madness from Alexander. Should’ve got his jotters for that alone. The point when we had Carroll and McGinley on the books at lb having extended them both was an utterly wtf moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Handsome_Devil Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Allroy for Prez said: £100k to ward off relegation seems a reasonable amount. It obviously is but the question is whether spending that 100k elsewhere wouldn't ward off relegation and also bring some medium-term rerun. Tbh I go both ways on it...I tend to think we're better off moving on, then I remember Kettlewell's summer efforts for the attack the devil we know doesn't seem quite as bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Ray Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Put it all on Van Veen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 There's loads of potential contract clauses that we wouldn't know about, that stop us from doing things like that though. As an example, your highest paid player(s) may have clauses to say that if someone comes in on a higher wage, theirs has a trigger to match it. Bringing in one player on significantly more than everyone else has the potential to hugely unsettle a squad, and have the senior players, captain and vice captain requesting a meeting. Wage structures don't just relate to what's available for the playing staff as a whole, but to make sure the salaries are appropriately proportionate throughout it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 You wonder how the dressing room would react to the lazy moany c**t up front earning 4 times more than all them when theyre losing regularly but theyre still being asked to do the hard yards so he can just stand up front and poach. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellboy1991 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Al B said: There's loads of potential contract clauses that we wouldn't know about, that stop us from doing things like that though. As an example, your highest paid player(s) may have clauses to say that if someone comes in on a higher wage, theirs has a trigger to match it. Bringing in one player on significantly more than everyone else has the potential to hugely unsettle a squad, and have the senior players, captain and vice captain requesting a meeting. Wage structures don't just relate to what's available for the playing staff as a whole, but to make sure the salaries are appropriately proportionate throughout it. That clause im sure Lampard and Terry had at Chelsea. After RA took over they went from £50k pw to around £175k pw after two transfers. They had it that they automatically because the highest payed players by £1k a week. That is savvy business sense. Edited January 23 by wellboy1991 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: You wonder how the dressing room would react to the lazy moany c**t up front earning 4 times more than all them when theyre losing regularly but theyre still being asked to do the hard yards so he can just stand up front and poach. The dressing room could be reminded of the fact that the "lazy moany c**t up front" is basically the only reason they're currently playing Premiership football with Motherwell right now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 37 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: You wonder how the dressing room would react to the lazy moany c**t up front earning 4 times more than all them when theyre losing regularly but theyre still being asked to do the hard yards so he can just stand up front and poach. I’m sure they’d be okay with it when the other option is their wages being halved when we’re punted to the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Al B said: There's loads of potential contract clauses that we wouldn't know about, that stop us from doing things like that though. As an example, your highest paid player(s) may have clauses to say that if someone comes in on a higher wage, theirs has a trigger to match it. Bringing in one player on significantly more than everyone else has the potential to hugely unsettle a squad, and have the senior players, captain and vice captain requesting a meeting. Wage structures don't just relate to what's available for the playing staff as a whole, but to make sure the salaries are appropriately proportionate throughout it. I agree with all of this. It goes without saying that I'd welcome him back within our wage structure. I'd be less inclined to pay him three times what we were this time last season in an "SOS" attempt. He was unbelievable in the second half of last season, up there with the best periods I'd ever seen a Motherwell player have, but you have to factor in other variables to that - the manager changing, the team picking up, playing in a front two, the form of Spittal, Goss, Furlong and Johnston behind him. He was undoubtedly the cherry on top but there were a lot of moving parts in to making that happen. I'd fear all of our eggs going into the basket and he gets injured in his first game, or he scores 2 league goals (1 from open play) like he did in the second half of the 21/22 season, or he goes months between goals like he did in the first half of last season (August v Kilmarnock, October v Ross County, December v Killie were the three consecutive league games he scored in at one point). If we do push the boat out for him, there's this pressure on him to be outstanding. Every time he gets the ball, our impatient supporters will be expecting something magic to happen. Every team we play will nullify him as tactic number one and having seen his huffs before, that's going to get him cranky. We definitely need to be sensible and build some sort of contingency in to our plans. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 55 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The dressing room could be reminded of the fact that the "lazy moany c**t up front" is basically the only reason they're currently playing Premiership football with Motherwell right now. 25 minutes ago, dezz said: I’m sure they’d be okay with it when the other option is their wages being halved when we’re punted to the Championship. These only work if hes actually a success. If he flops and isnt helping then what? My vibeschecker says his knee implodes before he even gets fit too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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