Swello Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Cracking to see Turnbull in there - because he hasn't played since the transfer stuff, it's easy to forget that he's actually our player still... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Swello said: Cracking to see Turnbull in there - because he hasn't played since the transfer stuff, it's easy to forget that he's actually our player still... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Manhattan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 ^ That's just f**king weird, sorry! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, capt_oats said: There they are...a great bunch of lads. Good to see Semple included there. get that made into a jigsaw, used to love them when I was younger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmen Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Be happy to have paddy power for our sponsor forever. Just love the top being simple and no sponsor logo ruining it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craig Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 There they are...a great bunch of lads. Good to see Semple included there.Grimmys black boots [emoji7] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Hylton is a strictly black boots guy as well. Also had never realised just how much of a height difference there is between Gillespie and Carson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4731176/stephen-robinson-hearts-motherwell-target-axe-craig-levein/ Hope we get enough compo to professionally photoshop the new manager into the team photo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Unless there's some sort of whacky release clause I'd have thought the 2 year extension Robinson (and Lasley) signed would make him a relatively pricey option. Equally, I'd be surprised is he wasn't on more short-lists than just Hearts. It's quite interesting to revisit his appointment (from around page 100) on this thread suffice to say that his C.V looks a lot better at this point than it did off the back of having been emptied by Oldham: Kept us up 2 Cup finals Comfortable mid-table finishes Currently sat 3rd Record profit & turnover in last year's accounts Current win %: 45.8% All in all, this is probably Robinson's window of opportunity if he's looking at things in a career sense. Even taking all the above into account it still feels like it's only a couple of poor performances from #RobinsonOut being a thing again, in fact the reaction to the LC game against Hearts is a reminder of that. When he was being linked with the Luton job the perception of their fans was that he was a hoofball merchant, at the moment he's so hot right now. A couple of seasons ago the press would have been all over someone like Tommy Wright as a viable option, the fact that he's not the first name to be quoted and is spending his time having beef in the press with the wife of a former player shows how that window can easily pass you by (if you're career inclined). Either way I'd hope that we've got some sort of succession plan in place as a matter of good practice. I know he's currently in employment but if we were ever looking at bringing in someone with a Valakari-type profile then this is probably the time to do it ie: when we seem to be on relatively stable ground compared to the fire-fighting jobs we've seen recently when Baraclough, McGhee and Robinson himself have been appointed. Equally, if Robinson was to move on (whether to Hearts or elsewhere) then if there was enough breathing space between our league position and the relegation places then given he apparently applied for the job before it may be the opportunity to give Lasley a crack at it. One way or another I'd think that if Robinson continues on the upward trajectory he is then there's an inevitability that we'll be getting enquiries for his services. Edited September 18, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Despite us being above them in the league currently and a lot better over the calendar year etc, managing Hearts is a totally different proposition for Robinson that managing Motherwell is. He's always had a squad with a young average age, full of guys plucked from obscurity and the odd youth player here and there. That is totally different dynamic to going in to Naismith, Berra, Whelan, Washington, Ikpeazu, Souttar, Clare and Halkett to name but a few on several k a week. There's also considerably more fans with a bigger sense of entitlement as to what they think their club should be achieving than there is at Motherwell. Recruitment becomes a whole different bag too. A flop on £5k is a lot harder to forget than a flop on £800 a week. There's every chance that's an exciting prospect to Robinson and he'd like to go in and see how he could do with it, but it would be very, very different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 When's the last time we had a manager "signed" by a "bigger" club? Was it Craigie Broon going to Aberdeen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I'm looking forward to the same people that are slevering all over Robbo out! threads after a couple of weeks without a win being outraged at the lack of loyalty if/when he goes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Despite us being above them in the league currently and a lot better over the calendar year etc, managing Hearts is a totally different proposition for Robinson that managing Motherwell is. He's always had a squad with a young average age, full of guys plucked from obscurity and the odd youth player here and there. That is totally different dynamic to going in to Naismith, Berra, Whelan, Washington, Ikpeazu, Souttar, Clare and Halkett to name but a few on several k a week. There's also considerably more fans with a bigger sense of entitlement as to what they think their club should be achieving than there is at Motherwell. Recruitment becomes a whole different bag too. A flop on £5k is a lot harder to forget than a flop on £800 a week. There's every chance that's an exciting prospect to Robinson and he'd like to go in and see how he could do with it, but it would be very, very different.We had quite a few old heads around when Robinson came in and it didn't take long for them to move on or retire in to coaching jobs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: 19 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe said: Despite us being above them in the league currently and a lot better over the calendar year etc, managing Hearts is a totally different proposition for Robinson that managing Motherwell is. He's always had a squad with a young average age, full of guys plucked from obscurity and the odd youth player here and there. That is totally different dynamic to going in to Naismith, Berra, Whelan, Washington, Ikpeazu, Souttar, Clare and Halkett to name but a few on several k a week. There's also considerably more fans with a bigger sense of entitlement as to what they think their club should be achieving than there is at Motherwell. Recruitment becomes a whole different bag too. A flop on £5k is a lot harder to forget than a flop on £800 a week. There's every chance that's an exciting prospect to Robinson and he'd like to go in and see how he could do with it, but it would be very, very different. We had quite a few old heads around when Robinson came in and it didn't take long for them to move on or retire in to coaching jobs. We did, but up to 2k a week with a contract expiring/less than a year left is a lot easier a contract to break than the ones some of these Hearts players will have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe said: Despite us being above them in the league currently and a lot better over the calendar year etc, managing Hearts is a totally different proposition for Robinson that managing Motherwell is. He's always had a squad with a young average age, full of guys plucked from obscurity and the odd youth player here and there. That is totally different dynamic to going in to Naismith, Berra, Whelan, Washington, Ikpeazu, Souttar, Clare and Halkett to name but a few on several k a week. There's also considerably more fans with a bigger sense of entitlement as to what they think their club should be achieving than there is at Motherwell. Recruitment becomes a whole different bag too. A flop on £5k is a lot harder to forget than a flop on £800 a week. There's every chance that's an exciting prospect to Robinson and he'd like to go in and see how he could do with it, but it would be very, very different. I think this sums up the stick or twist that even normal non-football people have when looking to change job. He's currently at a club where he has a combination of a *very* supportive boss and *relatively* low expectations from the support. In short, he is in a pretty stable job as football management goes - probably in a similar vein to Tommy Wright. If he goes to Hearts, he'll be at unarguably a bigger club, on more money and have a much bigger budget - but he'll have a support that see finishing 3rd as a right and a much harsher spotlight being shone on him. This is paper talk for now - but it wouldn't be as simple decision as people assume. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke92 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Robinson always struck me as someone who would be more likely to move down south rather than elsewhere in Scotland but Hearts could be an enticing one for him. Say what you want about Hearts but they have huge potential as a club. As painful as it would be I honestly couldn't knock Robbo for taking that move. Fortunately Budge is unlikely to sack her toyboy so I don't think we need to worry much.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Swello said: I'm looking forward to the same people that are slevering all over Robbo out! threads after a couple of weeks without a win being outraged at the lack of loyalty if/when he goes. Receipts have been kept. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/chairmans-statement-1-2 Totally shocked that the shortlist thing turned out to be completely made up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/chairmans-statement-1-2 Totally shocked that the shortlist thing turned out to be completely made up. Why is every Hearts statement about 18 paragraphs too long? - they should employ someone to edit Ann Budge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Swello said: Why is every Hearts statement about 18 paragraphs too long? - they should employ someone to edit Ann Budge. I thought that as well. It genuinely comes across as stream of consciousness type stuff that nobody else has read until it's on the website. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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