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5 hours ago, rw89 said:

:lol: I think going into the end of the season, Ross County were the only team on better form than ourselves. We lost 4 games (Dundee at home to two late goals, Livingston at home and away, and Queen of the South away. When we went into our big games, we came through them. Ayr on the other hand completely bottled it, much like the time before. 

Just remembered we actually had Jamie Walker in that team too. Still not top five for ourselves though. I'd not be that daft. 

  02/01/2012
  P W D L PTS
Ayr 17 4 5 8 17
Raith 19 5 4 10 19
           
  03/03/2012
Ayr 25 6 9 10 27
Raith 26 7 7 12 28
           
  07/04/2012
Ayr 31 7 11 13 32
Raith 31 8 10 13 34
           
 

14/04/2012

Ayr 33 8 11 14 35
Raith 33 8 11 14 35
           
  07/04/2012
Ayr 36 9 11 16 38
Raith 36 11 11 14 44
           
  After Casaluonovo
Ayr 19 5 6 8 21
Raith 17 6 7 4 25

Not really what I class as rampant.

Here are our performances after Casaluonovo arrived.

Results against the bottom half teams in that period
  P W D L PTS
Ayr 6 0 3 3 3
Raith 8 4 3 1 16
Results against the top half teams in that period
  P W D L PTS
Ayr 13 5 3 5 18
Raith 9 2 4 3 9
           
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:lol: Your point that Ayr should've finished top five, but it was down to their manager holding back. All we've established is that we hit an excellent run of form, Ayr signed dross like Kiegan Parker, while we made excellent additions. Ayr then were relegated to the seaside league and only just clambered their way back to obscurity. 

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6 hours ago, rw89 said:

:lol: Your point that Ayr should've finished top five, but it was down to their manager holding back. All we've established is that we hit an excellent run of form, Ayr signed dross like Kiegan Parker, while we made excellent additions. Ayr then were relegated to the seaside league and only just clambered their way back to obscurity. 

No, all we've found is that your definition of rampant and excellent is very loosely based as the figures below after Casaluonovo arrived show..

Ross County 43 points

Dundee 25 points

Hamilton 27 points

Livingston 23 points

Raith 25 points

Ayr 21 points

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Ayr were utter shit that season, as we were.  To say they were good enough for anything other than relegation is daft.

Still remember Chick Young touting them for the league that season on the back of beating a 10 men Rovers side :lol:

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4 hours ago, No_Problemo said:

So Moore is still out over a  month after being being told he would be Back in a month. Which is fine; again his health is most important  but an update would be good. If he's not going to be fit anytime soon then we need another striker in. 

No, we don't. There are already plenty of strikers/number 10s in the squad and McCall has so far only tried a handful of possible combinations of them. He'd be better off experimenting with what we have than signing an eighth player to compete for one of the front two positions.

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25 minutes ago, Meathead said:

No, we don't. There are already plenty of strikers/number 10s in the squad and McCall has so far only tried a handful of possible combinations of them. He'd be better off experimenting with what we have than signing an eighth player to compete for one of the front two positions.

Well considering McCall doesn't appear to rate Thomas or O'Connell then yes we do. Assume you have just made up the eighth player part. We may have plenty of number ten's but Nisbet is our only current number nine though that McCall rates. 

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13 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

Well considering McCall doesn't appear to rate Thomas or O'Connell then yes we do. Assume you have just made up the eighth player part. We may have plenty of number ten's but Nisbet is our only current number nine though that McCall rates. 

O'Connell has came off the bench in the last two games and looked impressive. Thomas admittedly hasn't done much.

We have Nisbett who has done well and Harkins/Forrest combined pretty well up front in the last game. McGuffie can also play there.

It's hardly a necessity that we sign another striker. Even if Moore is out for another month there are other areas (i.e. wide midfield and full back) far more in need.

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20 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

Well considering McCall doesn't appear to rate Thomas or O'Connell then yes we do. Assume you have just made up the eighth player part. We may have plenty of number ten's but Nisbet is our only current number nine though that McCall rates. 

I didn't make it up. We have Moore, Thomas, Nisbet, O'Connell, Harkins, Forrest and McGuffie all ideally looking to take one of the front two positions. If we sign another striker then on Moore's return we will be lumbered with eight forwards until Nisbet and Thomas' loans expire along with O'Connell's contract. We don't know that he doesn't rate Thomas and O'Connell. He could quite easily (and cheaply) cut his losses with both right now if he wanted to. We have no idea how Thomas would fare alongside Nisbet, or O'Connell alongside McGuffie, and in the likely event that a proven striker at this level or above does not become available prior to Moore recovering, we might as well try some combinations such as these rather than take a punt on another loanee or free agent.

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