Center half Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dele said: Did they send you for tartan paint and a left handed screwdriver, too? You must have been quite gullible. Dundee averaged about 7,000 in the 70's. No was "Way to smart for that" Dele! 7000 you say fucking shite home support for the DEE then must have lost more than they thought then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Center half said: No was "Way to smart for that" Dele! I've never met an intelligent centre half in my life, you fibber! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center half Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Dele said: I've never met an intelligent centre half in my life, you fibber! You have now ! I remember going to Hibs game one night at Dens that year with guys from the Kingsway tech! fucking sure there were more than 7000 that night or maybe Dens was smaller than I thought! we used to have to clean the floodlights twice a year up those pylons in the wind and rain! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dele said: I've never met an intelligent centre half in my life, you fibber! Remind us which position you used to play? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, tree house tam said: Remind us which position you used to play? That's the joke, Tam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Dele said: That's the joke, Tam. I know this but for the rest of the folk reading, they needed that we explanation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, jamamafegan said: I don’t know. How long is a piece of string? No risk - no reward. My point is they risked finances for 8 years, with lower OF allocations and lower prices for kids, and they got no reward out it. Your solution to this is to spend even more money. 1 hour ago, ali_91 said: You say this as if spending money to make money is a ridiculous concept. Of course it's not. But there has to be a sensible limit if we're aiming to compete for the top half on our crowds. You can try and justify chucking £1m over 5 years trying to increase crowds, but would it be better spent on that or on the squad? Managing a club like Saints isnt easy. Doing this bring a guaranteed six figure income in the next 5 months, which could be enough to allow us to sign a first team player, which could keep us up and lead to us getting the increased prize money from next year onwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The game is fucked for the vast majority of clubs and it has been for decades. I have no problem with Saints doing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: My point is they risked finances for 8 years, with lower OF allocations and lower prices for kids, and they got no reward out it. Your solution to this is to spend even more money. Of course it's not. But there has to be a sensible limit if we're aiming to compete for the top half on our crowds. You can try and justify chucking £1m over 5 years trying to increase crowds, but would it be better spent on that or on the squad? Managing a club like Saints isnt easy. Doing this bring a guaranteed six figure income in the next 5 months, which could be enough to allow us to sign a first team player, which could keep us up and lead to us getting the increased prize money from next year onwards. My solution is to spend more money on things that we haven't really done yet at such a scale. We've had the best decade in our history and the fans are losing interest. This suggests that having a top six side isn't enough to get people to come to McDiarmid. The club needs to start being ambitious in their efforts to bring people to games because what they have been doing so far clearly hasn't been enough. You have clubs like St. Mirren who are having just a poor a season as us but are consistently getting over 4000 every home game. In November they had 4708 for a game against Ross County. When we played County last week we had 2658. Over 2000 less supporters during the festive season. It's pitiful. Unless you live in Letham or Tulloch where it's a short walk to the ground, going to McDiarmid Park is a piss poor experience with nothing to offer. They need to offer more to customers to entice them and they need to forge a deeper relationship with the people of Perth. If that means spending a bit of money to turn the city blue and white then so be it. Make people proud of the club again, even when they aren't playing their best. Edited January 3, 2020 by jamamafegan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, ali_91 said: You say this as if spending money to make money is a ridiculous concept. I can understand the point random is trying to make but to steal from South Park his line of thinking is along these lines: Reduce ticket prices ????????? Profit It's not as simple as that. Lowering prices to watch the same product then blaming the fans is a glaring PR own goal. Contrast that to Cormack. A couple of days in the job here and he's talking about fan experience, things the club can do to make the match day more appealing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: I can understand the point random is trying to make but to steal from South Park his line of thinking is along these lines: Reduce ticket prices ????????? Profit It's not as simple as that. Lowering prices to watch the same product then blaming the fans is a glaring PR own goal. Contrast that to Cormack. A couple of days in the job here and he's talking about fan experience, things the club can do to make the match day more appealing Let's see how your American owner is doing in a year or two. The last two came in with grand plans and a few years later all theyve done in plough millions into a black hole while out the top tier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Toon Saintee Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 How about holding a bingo tea to raise some money and have raffle tickets and a bring and buy stall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Let's see how your American owner is doing in a year or two. The last two came in with grand plans and a few years later all theyve done in plough millions into a black hole while out the top tier.Cormack is aberdonian 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Dons_1988 said: Cormack is aberdonian Everything I've ever seen him say reeks of this American idea that "fan experience" is a massive thing. Most Scots would moan like f**k if every game started with a firework display. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Everything I've ever seen him say reeks of this American idea that "fan experience" is a massive thing. Most Scots would moan like f**k if every game started with a firework display.He is aberdonian though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 As Ewen McGregor aka Renton once said - it is a shite state of affairs. I feel for the loyal St Johnstone fans having to defend this decision. Not because I disagree with it more because Scottish Football is so heavily lopsided towards the Old Firm. Two teams based on bigotry / religion and just young fans wanting to follow successful teams. It cost every top flight side an average of 1000 fans probably more for the likes of Motherwell, St Mirren and Partick. I would rather they fucked off to a British / European league. Sure we would lose out on TV revenue and media coverage but it would be worth it. Shame it has come to this but clearly St Johnstone cannot afford a top flight side and if they don’t take steps like this they will go down a division sooner rather than later. They actually deserve huge plaudits for their achievements past decade based on such a small fan base. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Everything I've ever seen him say reeks of this American idea that "fan experience" is a massive thing. Most Scots would moan like f**k if every game started with a firework display. It's almost as if an Aberdonian who was on the board moved to America, saw how a brand new outfit engaged with the local fans on what the match day experience should entail and then cherry picked the ideas he feel could work here and decided to slowly integrate them as he gained control of the club Edited January 3, 2020 by Merkland Red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Ewan McGregor, eh. Once asked to leave hospitality at McDiarmid because he didn't have a tie on. They ignored the fact he was singing the Billy Boys, obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Everything I've ever seen him say reeks of this American idea that "fan experience" is a massive thing. Most Scots would moan like f**k if every game started with a firework display. What's wrong with his "American idea" though? Why are you so negative? No wonder you get called BoredomGuy. At least he is ambitious and trying to bring new ideas and excitement to his club. I've been to an MLS game and the pre-match atmosphere was better than anything that I've seen in Scotland. There was a carnival atmosphere, club flags everywhere down the street, guys with drums decked out in strips and scarfs chanting and singing as they marched to the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: It's almost as if an Aberdonian who was on the board moved to America, saw how a brand new outfit engaged with the local fans on what the match day experience should entail and then cherry picked the ideas he feel could work here and decided to slowly integrate them as he gained control of the club It's a different culture though, they spend hours before NFL matches eating burgers out their pick ups. Americans buy into that whereas it doesn't seem to work here. 90% of Scottish clubs have falling crowds, if it was easy to sort most wouldve done it by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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