Costanza Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: He might step up and do well... Good luck to him I guess. We've signed guys like him before. Who have we signed like him before? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 35 minutes ago, steviemay17 said: I imagine you saw this doing any analysis but was the only reason that we could ever get a 5-2-3 working in the first place because McCann was clearly an excellent player alongside an intelligent player like bryson or Craig and now we have no ball winner and no intelligent midfielders either? Wide CBs who could get forward. WBs who could cause problems without support. CMs who could use the ball under pressure and cover the whole park. Attacker who can do everything alone. All things i think you seem to need for it to be effective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Saint Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Levein and Co seem very keen on 3-5-2 kind of shape so there's a good chance he'd be used as a left wing back. 1 hour ago, PSJ.84 said: It’ll be interesting to see if that’s the plan moving forward. Hasn’t been often they’ve actually had wingers available to them so it’s hard to tell. The times we have changed shape we’ve looked so much better. I would hope, whether it's Levein or Kirk choosing the match day tactics/lineups, that they've learned and are more willing to use different setups like they've done with the 4231 we used the last couple games. I'm not completely against a 352, but it should be used in the right circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviemay17 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 34 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Wide CBs who could get forward. WBs who could cause problems without support. CMs who could use the ball under pressure and cover the whole park. Attacker who can do everything alone. All things i think you seem to need for it to be effective. I don't want this to happen because it would be a disaster, but on paper Phillips has the pace and tenacity to be the pressing player and Macpherson thinks he's prime Xabi Alonso so that could be the most frustrating duo of all time to watch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 41 minutes ago, Costanza said: Who have we signed like him before? Where their career was on a seemingly downward trajectory but potentially hungry with something to prove? Loads that went on to do well. From the top of my head, loads. MoH, Kennedy, Vine, Cregg, Anderson, Fraser Wright. Arguably Morris as well - he wasn't exactly flying when we signed him Probably the majority of our youth successes in the last 10ish years have also been released by other clubs due to "not being good enough" and us picking them up at 17-18 as well. We've signed Sidibeh from the Timbuktu leagues recently as well. I don't know whether or not he's good enough but I do imagine a lot of the Saints fans turning their noses up at him have seen as much of him as I have - nearly zero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviemay17 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I see that Turner Cooke got a start for Newcastle as they got pumped 8-0 by the A-League all star team, that defender Macca missed out on Courtney-Perkins seemed to have played and scored in that too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Is there a Radar for McPake @RandomGuy.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I don’t think any of them really compare to Josh McPake to be honest. I understand your point but the players you’ve listed had some kind of pedigree to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, The Saintee said: Is there a Radar for McPake @RandomGuy.? Decent enough I guess? Kind of like Connor Smith on paper, and before seeing them play, that it probably makes some sense for our back up players (on a reduced budget) to be cheap punts on young players who've shown promise in the past so you're aswell giving them a chance first? If hes coming in a starter its a big issue but I'd be surprised if its not just number bulking out wide for pennies due to how few options we had there this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 This is probably his last chance at a full time club. I don’t see an issue if he’s standing out in training. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 Yeah I'm not exactly buzzing at the thought of Josh McPake but I can see the logic in the signing if it does come off. He'll be cheap, gives us an option wide and will bulk out the squad in a part of the team where we had pretty much no options for most of the season. Plus he's been training with us for quite a while now, surely they wouldn't sign him if he's looked completely out of his depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, mizfit said: This is probably his last chance at a full time club. I don’t see an issue if he’s standing out in training. Yeah it probably comes down to his own mindset really, as this is a proper "pick a path" moment for him. Its pure speculation but I feel like a lot of Connor Smiths problem is how hes approached it, as he reeks of someone who doesn't understand how easy it is to just lose it and end up dossing about the lower tiers for years. Hes been there but its always been on loan from a Premiership side. He's huffing and puffing about this and that, then one day he'll realise hes in his mid-20s, its August and he doesn't have a club, and his options are far more limited than he realised. It feels like McPake has already been through that. That maybe means he'll come in with a hunger. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WattersIsGod Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 It really is McPake's last chance. I have doubts about his game translating to the top level. His best performances were against the Edinburgh City and Annan. Even decent league 1 full backs figured him out pretty quickly. His foiled attempts to cut in and shoot will infuriate you. Hope he proves me wrong though. No shortage of effort and he took the physical stuff pretty well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint DBL Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I’m sure he looked pretty decent for the Queens Park side that were nearly promoted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Saint Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, mizfit said: This is probably his last chance at a full time club. I don’t see an issue if he’s standing out in training. That's how I feel about it. I would rather the club take punts on cheap young players who have something to prove rather than some 30yo has been who wants a final payday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) Sidenote, anyone know exactly how many appearances Liam Craig made for us in the league only? Overall I get him on 453, but unsure on league only as Transfermarkt is being weird. I get 378? Edited May 24 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 363 ? Do you include sub appearances? Didnt realise he’s coaching Queens Park reserves now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 14 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: 363 ? Do you include sub appearances? Didnt realise he’s coaching Queens Park reserves now. Yeah just overall league appearances for us, both top flight and second tier. Official site talks about 453 which I'm sure is all competitions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Surely the released list isn’t far off now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, mizfit said: Surely the released list isn’t far off now? Nobody at Saints is available to put it out, they had one look at the list and are now partying in the Maltings. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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