PauloPerth Posted Sunday at 15:05 Share Posted Sunday at 15:05 Just watching the highlights of st Mirren v Kilmarnock. Mandron gets booked for an elbow and 3-4 minutes later lunges into a late challenge that he’s lucky not to see a second yellow. So Robinson reads the game and subs him before he gets himself sent off. Only 19 minutes into the match. Whilst we all sit watching Adama last month and Benji yesterday basically holding up a sign saying ‘watch me get sent off here’ and our bench does nothing. It’s hugely frustrating for such an experienced manager to not be able to read what’s happening in front of him. And again, with the complete lack of leadership in the team, there’s nobody having a word in Benji’s ear to calm him down or even saying to the bench you need to get him off. It’s just brain dead naive football that infuriates. We used to be so streetwise and switched on in matches but now we’re like a pub league outfit at times in the way we go about our Saturday afternoons. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted Sunday at 15:07 Share Posted Sunday at 15:07 1 minute ago, PauloPerth said: Just watching the highlights of st Mirren v Kilmarnock. Mandron gets booked for an elbow and 3-4 minutes later lunges into a late challenge that he’s lucky not to see a second yellow. So Robinson reads the game and subs him before he gets himself sent off. Only 19 minutes into the match. Whilst we all sit watching Adama last month and Benji yesterday basically holding up a sign saying ‘watch me get sent off here’ and our bench does nothing. It’s hugely frustrating for such an experienced manager to not be able to read what’s happening in front of him. And again, with the complete lack of leadership in the team, there’s nobody having a word in Benji’s ear to calm him down or even saying to the bench you need to get him off. It’s just brain dead naive football that infuriates. We used to be so streetwise and switched on in matches but now we’re like a pub league outfit at times in the way we go about our Saturday afternoons. Agreed. We should be appealing the red card though. A worse challenge in the game today was a yellow and var reviewed it and still a yellow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted Sunday at 15:09 Share Posted Sunday at 15:09 I think you can see why he kept Kimpioka on yesterday? He'd already subbed Kirk on so his attacking sub options were really just Dair and McPake. Gambling that Kimpioka would be more useful than either is maybe worth the gamble and he'd have been slaughtered if he'd taken him off and left Kirk as a lone striker IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted Sunday at 15:44 Share Posted Sunday at 15:44 29 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: Agreed. We should be appealing the red card though. A worse challenge in the game today was a yellow and var reviewed it and still a yellow. Seeing it back it was a bit harsh and think the Hibs players’ reaction played a part. I don’t think we’d get anywhere with an appeal as he did dive in a bit late, but you never know. We’re not getting much luck out of refs just now when you see Rooney kicking lumps out of a killie player on the ground that neither the ref nor var do anything about, and compare it to Sanders’ sending off the other week. 27 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I think you can see why he kept Kimpioka on yesterday? He'd already subbed Kirk on so his attacking sub options were really just Dair and McPake. Gambling that Kimpioka would be more useful than either is maybe worth the gamble and he'd have been slaughtered if he'd taken him off and left Kirk as a lone striker IMO. Usually yes but not yesterday. Benji had lost the head and the game was well done by that stage. Give a run about to a youngster for the last 5 minutes. We barely tickled Hibs in the penalty box yesterday let alone create anything. It wasn’t his day and his careless pass for Hibs’ second summed it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted Sunday at 15:59 Share Posted Sunday at 15:59 (edited) 52 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I think you can see why he kept Kimpioka on yesterday? He'd already subbed Kirk on so his attacking sub options were really just Dair and McPake. Gambling that Kimpioka would be more useful than either is maybe worth the gamble and he'd have been slaughtered if he'd taken him off and left Kirk as a lone striker IMO. McPake was on by that point too. Kimpioka had been given a warning about some of his challenges a couple of minutes before so it was pretty obvious his head was gone. If it was the 60th minute or something then I’d agree that leaving him on was worth the gamble, given what was on the bench, but it was the 89th minute and the game was done. Think you’re right that he’d be getting slaughtered whatever he decided to do though. Edited Sunday at 16:02 by PSJ.84 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted Sunday at 16:07 Share Posted Sunday at 16:07 3 minutes ago, PSJ.84 said: McPake was on by that point too. Kimpioka had been given a warning about some of his challenges a couple of minutes before so it was pretty obvious his head was gone. If it was the 60th minute or something then I’d agree that leaving him on was worth the gamble, but it was the 89th minute and the game was done. Think you’re right that he’d be getting slaughtered whatever he decided to do. Agree, should have been off. I also would have thrown a couple of the young boys on too. Game was gone and damage was done, but could have salvaged something positive by giving folk league debuts. I think Levein is showing a bit of a slowdown in his in game reactions, but his assistants should be coming up with answers too. I actually think he is either running them all by, or letting, Kirk make some of the decisions. There is far far too much looking at clipboards etc before we male subs. The comparison to how quickly St Mirren subbed of a player before he was sent off is an excellent one. Shows a manager who is on it, vs one who is not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted Sunday at 16:08 Share Posted Sunday at 16:08 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: I'm not someone who generally claims to be in the know about things (in fact the opposite is more commonly the case) but this is one subject I do have a bit of knowledge on and I can assure you that the above comment is incorrect. We've both probably been told by the man himself, at different times. Hopefully yours has been recently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted Sunday at 16:23 Share Posted Sunday at 16:23 23 minutes ago, PSJ.84 said: McPake was on by that point too. Kimpioka had been given a warning about some of his challenges a couple of minutes before so it was pretty obvious his head was gone. If it was the 60th minute or something then I’d agree that leaving him on was worth the gamble, given what was on the bench, but it was the 89th minute and the game was done. Think you’re right that he’d be getting slaughtered whatever he decided to do though. His deliberate attempt to knee the goal keeper was unnecessary as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double deluxe Posted Monday at 09:13 Share Posted Monday at 09:13 Gordon Marshall new GK coach 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted Monday at 09:37 Share Posted Monday at 09:37 23 minutes ago, double deluxe said: Gordon Marshall new GK coach Colour me surprised. No connection to Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted Monday at 09:42 Share Posted Monday at 09:42 Seems like he only joined Hamilton this Summer too, so presumably having to pay some compensation to get him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted Monday at 09:47 Share Posted Monday at 09:47 9 minutes ago, mizfit said: Colour me surprised. No connection to Hearts. His old man played for Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted Monday at 09:53 Share Posted Monday at 09:53 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Seems like he only joined Hamilton this Summer too, so presumably having to pay some compensation to get him? Discount on the wages on the two loans that went the other way on Friday? Edited Monday at 09:53 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted Monday at 10:00 Share Posted Monday at 10:00 12 minutes ago, hk blues said: His old man played for Hearts. Cannot f**king write it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted Monday at 10:04 Share Posted Monday at 10:04 3 minutes ago, mizfit said: Cannot f**king write it. To rub salt in, Marshall Jr. was a product of Tynecastle Boys Club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted Monday at 10:06 Share Posted Monday at 10:06 Was GK coach at us before, so knows the club. No idea if he is any good mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattie-bogle Posted Monday at 10:09 Share Posted Monday at 10:09 He's only 60......young for a goalkeeper now a days, couple of bounce games should get him match fit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted Monday at 10:14 Share Posted Monday at 10:14 I can’t remember properly, and it might just be as a result of my mindset at the moment concerning the club, but did he not leave under a cloud the last time with his coaching capabilities questioned? Apologies if that’s not the case and I’ve completely made it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattie-bogle Posted Monday at 10:26 Share Posted Monday at 10:26 Not sure. Did find this article, seems we lost him as we had him on some sort of part time contract https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/st-johnstone-goalkeeping-coach-moves-2735811?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted Monday at 11:16 Share Posted Monday at 11:16 Saw Taylor Steven got 23 minutes for Cliftonville on Saturday and grabbed a double on his debut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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