Dons_1988 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Suppose we should be grateful they didn't do a Manchester. Really unfair. They were provoked in Manchester. A TV screen broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kennie makevin Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 hours ago, bennett said: Afrikaaner who would do well to remember that his only proper title of merit was won for Dundee United. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Holly Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Suppose we should be grateful they didn't do a Manchester. and there lies the reason there was no police action.the police know that if they had tried to clear the place they would have had a riot on their hands. the police have announced to the people of scotland that mob rule rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 hours ago, bennett said: Put down!!! Dicks changed his tune. Quote LOCK them up and throw away the key. The club I gave blood, sweat and tears for is dead. Whose fault is it? I don’t care. All I care about is the people who brought Rangers to their knees are punished. Tax evasion is a crime, everyone knows that. If you don’t pay your taxes you go to jail. It’s a white-collar crime that must have consequences. So if HMRC are really serious about liquidation giving them the best chance to investigate why Rangers failed, I want to see it done properly. I want to see the people who are responsible for running Rangers into the ground brought to book. I’m still numb by the news 140 years of history has been wiped out in one fell swoop. It’s like a death in the family you know has been coming for a while. When it happens it still knocks you for six. It’s difficult to know what to make of it all. Too big to fail, that’s what I always thought. Or maybe it was more to do with not believing a club could be so badly mismanaged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, G51 said: Lockdown is not a form of punishment to be inflicted on us by the ruling classes whenever we step out of line. If the SNP decides to extend the lockdown because some football fans had an outdoors party, it will say everything you need to know about the collection of centrist technocrats currently running Holyrood. You quite correctly describe a scenario where a punitive authoritarian government is infringing upon the civil liberties of its population. If you were to be provided with sufficient evidence that this outdoors party led to a spike in coronavirus cases in Glasgow, which led to a continuation of the lockdown restrictions in the city, would you still feel that the lockdown was unjustified? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: You quite correctly describe a scenario where a punitive authoritarian government is infringing upon the civil liberties of its population. If you were to be provided with sufficient evidence that this outdoors party led to a spike in coronavirus cases in Glasgow, which led to a continuation of the lockdown restrictions in the city, would you still feel that the lockdown was unjustified? No problem with that. Worth noting though that, as posted above, this has not happened in any of the previous occasions where mass gatherings happened. Edited March 8, 2021 by G51 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 My head hurts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 what are we buying from the new champions collection in the club shop lads. the champions shirt is a little rich for me, but the official party pack looks to be a must-buy IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, G51 said: People said the same thing about BLM, about crammed beaches in the summer, about Liverpool and Leeds fans having big title parties - none of them led to an increase in cases. Absolutely no one would have paid any attention to a statement telling fans to clear George Square, and everyone knows it. I'm not going to sit here and moralise over it. Scots are spectacularly good at getting pished and making a c**t of ourselves, we do it better than anyone. I wouldn't call out Celtic fans for breaking lockdown with an enormous party to celebrate the ten, so I won't call out Rangers fans either. I'm kinda honest like that (and exceptionally humble too). Half the people crying over this are classists c***s who look down on Old Firm fans as little more than pond life, and the other half are people who just simply don't like that Rangers won the title and fans are enjoying it. Sectarian singing is obviously unacceptable, but it won't be eradicated overnight and requires a lot of work from everyone involved to get there. Point scoring doesn't help. Some guy wanking in the middle of the street tells me the guy has some issues he needs to work out, and isn't really indicative of a "night of shame" or whatever it's being portrayed as. Couple of points... 1) if some of my fellow old firm fans dislike folks' attitudes about us being "little more than pond life", maybe if some stopped acting like "pond life", that might help. 2) I have been listening to both old firm cubs talking for decades about fans behaviour needing to change and while some of the violence has thankfully gone, the sectarianism is blindingly obvious. I'm in my 60s. Don't talk to me about eradicating it overnight and work needing to be done. It was being talked about when I used to stand under the covered terracing in the days when Stein and then Parlane were banging the goals in, it was being talked about when the Centenary Stand was built and it's been talked about ever since. The police didn't cause the scenes over the weekend, and nor did the Scottish Government, the SNP, or the Club. Each and every one of the idiots who disgraced themselves over the weekend were responsible for their own actions and I will have no problem if the police take action as a result of social media posts and hand out fines. I'd like to think that any season ticket holders might face renewal sanctions as well, but as that would actually require action, as opposed to just words, I doubt it. The seats at Ibrox can be filled without the nutters. We have spent years desperately waiting to be at the top of the tree again. We are once again Champions. It's time the fans started acting like Champions. Let's leave the "pond life" behaviour to others. Have a good day folks - and here's hoping the fans and the team keep the heid in the European ties coming up. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagdagh Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, G51 said: No problem with that. Worth noting though that, as posted above, this has not happened in any of the previous occasions where mass gatherings happened. The previous gatherings were when the virus prevalence was lower and before the 'Kent Variant' became dominant which is up to 70% more infectious. Always amazed that Rangers fans who seem lucid and reasonable feel the need to defend the Red Hand Gang/Statue Protecting/Neo-Nazi element when they go on the rampage.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, G51 said: what are we buying from the new champions collection in the club shop lads. the champions shirt is a little rich for me, but the official party pack looks to be a must-buy IMO Aye, the party pack will definitely be getting purchased. Might treat myself to some Gin as well when it becomes available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Couple of points... 1) if some of my fellow old firm fans dislike folks' attitudes about us being "little more than pond life", maybe if some stopped acting like "pond life", that might help. 2) I have been listening to both old firm cubs talking for decades about fans behaviour needing to change and while some of the violence has thankfully gone, the sectarianism is blindingly obvious. I'm in my 60s. Don't talk to me about eradicating it overnight and work needing to be done. It was being talked about when I used to stand under the covered terracing in the days when Stein and then Parlane were banging the goals in, it was being talked about when the Centenary Stand was built and it's been talked about ever since. The police didn't cause the scenes over the weekend, and nor did the Scottish Government, the SNP, or the Club. Each and every one of the idiots who disgraced themselves over the weekend were responsible for their own actions and I will have no problem if the police take action as a result of social media posts and hand out fines. I'd like to think that any season ticket holders might face renewal sanctions as well, but as that would actually require action, as opposed to just words, I doubt it. The seats at Ibrox can be filled without the nutters. We have spent years desperately waiting to be at the top of the tree again. We are once again Champions. It's time the fans started acting like Champions. Let's leave the "pond life" behaviour to others. Have a good day folks - and here's hoping the fans and the team keep the heid in the European ties coming up. 1) Describing the actions of any person as pond life is classism. It's a term people use to describe folk they consider to be an underclass of society. This attitude absolutely needs called out. Also, if breaking lockdown restrictions makes you pond life, then we all are. Every single person will have broken the rules at some point. That's the thing with emergency laws - they're incredibly taxing to live under, and 100% compliance isn't really expected in practice. All you can realistically ask of people is that they risk assess their actions correctly. My assessment of yesterday was that previous celebrations for other clubs have shown that it's low-risk, especially given the age profile of people attending, so I don't really give a f**k that people did it. 2) I'm in my 20's. I'm not responsible for the failures of previous generations to tackle sectarianism - that's on them. My view is we need to do all we can to eradicate it, and Rangers have made good commitments on this with making Everyone Anyone front and centre of the fan experience being a great start. I fully believe that the club intends to do what it can and it will have my support in that - I will do whatever I can to help eradicate it. It would be absolutely foolish though to think that Rangers and Celtic, and those clubs alone, can eradicate sectarianism from Scotland and Northern Ireland. That's not how this works. I also think expecting Rangers and Celtic to eradicate sectarianism when Northern Ireland was disintegrating into civil war was probably! unrealistic! imo! There is zero danger of season tickets being taken away for this, and rightly so. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? Every time someone breaks the law, they get their season book taken away? A truly crazy idea rooted in authoritarianism. 1 minute ago, Dagdagh said: The previous gatherings were when the virus prevalence was lower and before the 'Kent Variant' became dominant which is up to 70% more infectious. Always amazed that Rangers fans who seem lucid and reasonable feel the need to defend the Red Hand Gang/Statue Protecting/Neo-Nazi element when they go on the rampage.. We have no evidence at all to suggest that the Kent variant means it is unsafe for people to socialise outdoors. Most folk attending George Square yesterday would have been between 16 -30. I'd wager there were far more people that attended protests in support of BLM than protecting statues in last nights crowd. Claiming that I'm defending neo-nazi's is extremely funny though, I'll give you that. I think when we're getting to the stage where "Rangers fans are Nazis" is the discourse then we're probably done here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, AJF said: Aye, the party pack will definitely be getting purchased. Might treat myself to some Gin as well when it becomes available. Aye I'm going for the whisky. Will almost certainly be absolutely shite, but what can you do? Not buy it? C'mon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Aye I'm going for the whisky. Will almost certainly be absolutely shite, but what can you do? Not buy it? C'mon.I'd imagine it'll claim to be a 20 year old when it's really only a 10 [emoji6] 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AJF Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: I may be wrong, but aren’t the rules in place for players travelling to and from matches? As soon as the players “sign off” from work, they are governed by the same rules as you and I. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, AJF said: I may be wrong, but aren’t the rules in place for players travelling to and from matches? As soon as the players “sign off” from work, they are governed by the same rules as you and I. The rules that state only 2 people are allowed to meet outdoors if not from same household? Pretty sure to and from training counts too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Knight55WoodBear said: My head hurts This. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: The rules that state only 2 people are allowed to meet outdoors if not from same household? Pretty sure to and from training counts too. Like I said, I may be wrong, but people are allowed to car share. They advise ideally it should be limited to 2 households but it’s not prohibited. Edited March 8, 2021 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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