AJF Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Drew Brees said: They were asking why the camera in the Motherwell half wasn’t following the play, and that led to the SFA writing to the broadcasters asking the same question. And the others? You are deliberately missing the point here to absolve Celtic of anything. I don't need to spell it out to you what I am getting at, because it's not difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Drew Brees said: You don’t see a push in this?? Behave. the defender almost had his shirt off his back before fatty 'pushes' him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DukDukGoose said: Behave. the defender almost had his shirt off his back before fatty 'pushes' him. Correct, that’s the point I’m making, both at it, both fouling, and the ref looks round and sees , in your words, fatty pushing him and gives the freekick. Could’ve went either way. But to write a letter demanding answers and an apology is glorious. A very strange football club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Stuff like this is exactly why we’ve ended up with VAR. Absolute virgins who can’t cope with losing a game of football. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye the Gnu Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Are you aware Celtic weren’t complaining about a ref or a decision? Well, that’ll be a first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Correct, that’s the point I’m making, both at it, both fouling, and the ref looks round and sees , in your words, fatty pushing him and gives the freekick. Could’ve went either way. But to write a letter demanding answers and an apology is glorious. A very strange football club. Celtic were literally demanding answer son VAR earlier in the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Stuff like this is exactly why we’ve ended up with VAR. Absolute virgins who can’t cope with losing a game of football. I do agree. As I said before, I don't agree with seeking answers from the SFA and any abuse to Clancy and his family is abhorrent. I also disliked that Rangers as a club were one of the clubs leading calls for VAR without any consultation. Not that I imagine the consultation would've made any difference. Unless, of course, you're including me in the virgin category. In which case, I'm not best pleased. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: Celtic were literally demanding answer son VAR earlier in the season. In vars first game, which we won, they asked how the rules were applied concerning the smith handball. Hardly a complaint or demanding an apology. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: Behave. the defender almost had his shirt off his back before fatty 'pushes' him. You just said you saw a push which is a foul yeah? The referee can’t see AJ’s arm so can’t see or call that so he calls what he sees which is the push by fatty as you eloquently describe. VAR can’t change it as what he calls the foul for isn’t a clear and obvious error. People don’t have to like it but it’s what we decided to bring into the game Edited April 11, 2023 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: You just said you saw a push which is a foul yeah? The referee can’t see AJ’s arm so can’t see or call that so he calls what he sees which is the push by fatty as you eloquently describe. VAR can’t change it as what he calls the foul for isn’t a clear and obvious error. People don’t have to like it but it’s what we decided to bring into the game No, a push isn't a foul. It's a contact sport. He's literally pushing the guy who's got a handful of his shirt off of him. I can absolutely see why Clancy thought it was a foul but VAR should be over turning that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: No, a push isn't a foul. It's a contact sport. He's literally pushing the guy who's got a handful of his shirt off of him. I can absolutely see why Clancy thought it was a foul but VAR should be over turning that. A push is a foul if he believes the player got an advantage and considering Morelos scores that is clearly gaining an advantage. And like I said VAR won’t correct it as it isn’t a clear and obvious mistake based on what he called the foul for. Again you don’t have to like it but that is how it is and how VAR is applied Edited April 11, 2023 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: A push is a foul if he believes the player got an advantage and considering Morelos scores that is clearly gaining an advantage. And like I said VAR won’t correct it as it isn’t a clear and obvious mistake based on what he called the foul for. Again you don’t have to like it but that is how it is and how VAR is applied Morelos scored because Johnstone dived to header the ball and missed it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: A push is a foul if he believes the player got an advantage and considering Morelos scores that is clearly gaining an advantage. And like I said VAR won’t correct it as it isn’t a clear and obvious mistake based on what he called the foul for. Again you don’t have to like it but that is how it is and how VAR is applied It's a clear error. I've not seen one pundit try and defend it. Andy Walker thought it was a nailed on goal FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, AJF said: Morelos scored because Johnstone dived to header the ball and missed it Thats your interpretation of it mate and one that is clearly very different to that of AJ, Kevin Clancy, the VAR officials and the SFA themselves as well as quite a few posters on here. In fact you are the only person I’ve seen anywhere to suggest a foul was given because AJ dived to head the ball I could almost backstroke in the volume of tears because of this incident 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DukDukGoose said: It's a clear error. I've not seen one pundit try and defend it. Andy Walker thought it was a nailed on goal FFS. Andy Walker lol And pundits don’t operate VAR mate so maybe the first thing to do is understand what VAR can and can’t correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1GregStewart Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Death threats and Sevco again spitting the dummy, all over a 50/50 decision. Deary me, what a state. No wonder ‘nobody likes you’. The amount of decisions they have had, if everyone acted like that there wouldn’t be any football left in this country by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Jinky67 said: Thats your interpretation of it mate and one that is clearly very different to that of AJ, Kevin Clancy, the VAR officials and the SFA themselves as well as quite a few posters on here. In fact you are the only person I’ve seen anywhere to suggest a foul was given because AJ dived to head the ball I could almost backstroke in the volume of tears because of this incident I never said that’s why a foul was given, I said that’s why Morelos scored - he missed the ball. As I said before, it’s a minority view that a foul was committed and the goal should’ve been disallowed. Your claims that the referee and SFA believe it was a foul bears no weight considering the amount of times you’ve disagreed with decisions this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Andy Walker lol And pundits don’t operate VAR mate so maybe the first thing to do is understand what VAR can and can’t correct VAR could easily tell the referee to go watch that decision on the monitor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DukDukGoose said: VAR could easily tell the referee to go watch that decision on the monitor. They could have but they thought it was a push too, so… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, AJF said: I do agree. As I said before, I don't agree with seeking answers from the SFA and any abuse to Clancy and his family is abhorrent. I also disliked that Rangers as a club were one of the clubs leading calls for VAR without any consultation. Not that I imagine the consultation would've made any difference. Unless, of course, you're including me in the virgin category. In which case, I'm not best pleased. It’s a general point, it applies beyond the old firm. We’re talking about a fairly marginal decision being used as the reason for a result going one way. A ref being sent death threats, a club happy for their own failings to be deflected onto a referees mistake. We absolutely sleepwalked into thinking VAR was a worthwhile investment. And I couldn’t possibly comment on your sexuality. If you are, I’m sure it’s because you’ve chosen to wait for the right person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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