Thereisalight.. Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, G51 said: We need less lawyers in Scottish football, not more. Nah we just need less Lawwell Edited February 10, 2021 by Thereisalight.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just dropping by to see if Rangers have apologised now that Michael Gardyne has been cleared by the SFA over his alleged homophobic slur? It's been almost 3 weeks so maybe I missed it but you'd think they'd be as vocal about a retraction as they were about the allegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, yoda said: Just dropping by to see if Rangers have apologised now that Michael Gardyne has been cleared by the SFA over his alleged homophobic slur? It's been almost 3 weeks so maybe I missed it but you'd think they'd be as vocal about a retraction as they were about the allegation. Why would Rangers apologise for an allegation that they didn't make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Stevie seems a bit upset this morning. He seems annoyed that the rules that have been in place for, I don’t know, three or four seasons now, are being used as they have been for the past three or four seasons. If his players stopped elbowing or forearm smashing their opponents, or standing on their lower leg when the player is lying on the ground, then Rangers wouldn’t have a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, yoda said: Just dropping by to see if Rangers have apologised now that Michael Gardyne has been cleared by the SFA over his alleged homophobic slur? It's been almost 3 weeks so maybe I missed it but you'd think they'd be as vocal about a retraction as they were about the allegation. I'm sorry. 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: Stevie seems a bit upset this morning. He seems annoyed that the rules that have been in place for, I don’t know, three or four seasons now, are being used as they have been for the past three or four seasons. If his players stopped elbowing or forearm smashing their opponents, or standing on their lower leg when the player is lying on the ground, then Rangers wouldn’t have a problem. You don't like Sevco, we get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, yoda said: Just dropping by to see if Rangers have apologised now that Michael Gardyne has been cleared by the SFA over his alleged homophobic slur? It's been almost 3 weeks so maybe I missed it but you'd think they'd be as vocal about a retraction as they were about the allegation. Whatever happened to the balance of probabilities and credible and reliable witness? Didn’t 2 rangers players say they heard it? Also from Gerrard Gers boss Steven Gerrard complained that the Staggies attacker made "serious" inappropriate comments to one of his players in the aftermath of their 4-0 win in the Highlands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Stevie seems a bit upset this morning. He seems annoyed that the rules that have been in place for, I don’t know, three or four seasons now, are being used as they have been for the past three or four seasons. If his players stopped elbowing or forearm smashing their opponents, or standing on their lower leg when the player is lying on the ground, then Rangers wouldn’t have a problem. “Why not just have no referees and we'll just make all the decisions days and hours after the game and we'll go from there? It's not right. It doesn't happen anywhere else.'' Isn’t he getting the sweet end of this deal? They keep their 11 on the park when it should be 10, and they complain. Not as if he’s never seen this type of ruling before. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/three-match-ban-for-gerrard-3555361 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, yoda said: Just dropping by to see if Rangers have apologised now that Michael Gardyne has been cleared by the SFA over his alleged homophobic slur? It's been almost 3 weeks so maybe I missed it but you'd think they'd be as vocal about a retraction as they were about the allegation. I don't recall Rangers alleging that Gardyne had used a homophobic slur. Given that the referee that day saw fit to book him for what he said, then I'm assuming he said something unacceptable but it hasn't actually been released what he said, has it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Stevie seems a bit upset this morning. He seems annoyed that the rules that have been in place for, I don’t know, three or four seasons now, are being used as they have been for the past three or four seasons. If his players stopped elbowing or forearm smashing their opponents, or standing on their lower leg when the player is lying on the ground, then Rangers wouldn’t have a problem. Rangers have been consistent in their criticism of the disciplinary process for years. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, AJF said: I don't recall Rangers alleging that Gardyne had used a homophobic slur. Given that the referee that day saw fit to book him for what he said, then I'm assuming he said something unacceptable but it hasn't actually been released what he said, has it? The only people who heard the remark were Morelos and goldson, then Gerrard commented on it so for the SFA to investigate homophobic slurs then that info must’ve came from somewhere, I’d be surprised if it came from county. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, AJF said: I don't recall Rangers alleging that Gardyne had used a homophobic slur. Given that the referee that day saw fit to book him for what he said, then I'm assuming he said something unacceptable but it hasn't actually been released what he said, has it? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-gardyne-slammed-steven-gerrard-23123757 I mean it doesn't need a rocket scientist to work out what he's getting at. It's got to be homophobic or racist based on his comments. Well if he's called him a "fanny" then that would be deemed a bookable offence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: The only people who heard the remark were Morelos and goldson, then Gerrard commented on it so for the SFA to investigate homophobic slurs then that info must’ve came from somewhere, I’d be surprised if it came from county. 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-gardyne-slammed-steven-gerrard-23123757 I mean it doesn't need a rocket scientist to work out what he's getting at. It's got to be homophobic or racist based on his comments. Well if he's called him a "fanny" then that would be deemed a bookable offence. I'm not entirely sure calling someone a "fanny" would constitute a bookable offence. If it is then there should be red cards galore. The notice against Gardyne was dropped due to lack of evidence, not due to him being proved not guilty. If Rangers believed that the comment was serious enough to cause offence and should not belong on a football pitch, what should we exactly be apologising for considering we never mentioned what was said and it doesn't appear we made any complaint to the SFA to have it investigated considering Gerrard said it wasn't for us to deal with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, AJF said: I'm not entirely sure calling someone a "fanny" would constitute a bookable offence. If it is then there should be red cards galore. The notice against Gardyne was dropped due to lack of evidence, not due to him being proved not guilty. If Rangers believed that the comment was serious enough to cause offence and should not belong on a football pitch, what should we exactly be apologising for considering we never mentioned what was said and it doesn't appear we made any complaint to the SFA to have it investigated considering Gerrard said it wasn't for us to deal with? If it was so serious then why didn't they report it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: If it was so serious then why didn't they report it? Because it's within the jurisdiction of the SFA's retrospective disciplinary system, so it's the referee's job to report it. Which he did, hence the charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: If it was so serious then why didn't they report it? I have no idea. Potentially because it was indicated already that it would be getting looked at further? That still doesn't answer my question of what should Rangers be apologising for here exactly... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 We'll put that one down as "No they haven't but their fans did send him threats online" then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, yoda said: We'll put that one down as "No they haven't but their fans did send him threats online" then. Maybe you can enlighten us then as to why you believe an apology is due? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, yoda said: We'll put that one down as "No they haven't but their fans did send him threats online" then. It's okay to admit you've made a c*nt of it sometimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: The only people who heard the remark were Morelos and goldson, then Gerrard commented on it so for the SFA to investigate homophobic slurs then that info must’ve came from somewhere, I’d be surprised if it came from county. You're going to go down the same road here as you did with Shay Logan and Tonev, aren't you.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, bennett said: You're going to go down the same road here as you did with Shay Logan and Tonev, aren't you.... Well....1 player, Logan, says he heard tonev give him racist abuse, the SFA decide on the balance of probabilities and that tonev isn’t credible that he’s guilty- 7 game ban 2 players, Morelos and goldson, say they heard Gardyne give Morelos homophobic abuse, the SFA decide to drop the case. Am I missing something? Edited February 12, 2021 by Drew Brees 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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