Jim McLean's Ghost Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 18 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Loads of clubs have entered admin. Why was a vote necessary to determine whether Rangers kept a licence for their existing league? Because Rangers were unable to come to an agreement with their creditors. A vote wasn't necessary and Rangers Newco could have stayed in the SPL with no intervention. Fan pressure forced the clubs of the SPL to hand out a punishment, which needed a vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Because Rangers were unable to come to an agreement with their creditors. A vote wasn't necessary and Rangers Newco could have stayed in the SPL with no intervention. Fan pressure forced the clubs of the SPL to hand out a punishment, which needed a vote. Taking out the old club/new club debate, as I've said many times it doesn't bother me.Precedents were set with the likes of Livingston being placed in division 3. The fan pressure was absolutely necessary to ensure fairness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This thread is dying on its arse. Needs a title change IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This thread is dying on its arse. Needs a title change IMO. Its equivalent to all the big clubs getting a new strip every season. A new look and a new start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Because Rangers were unable to come to an agreement with their creditors. A vote wasn't necessary and Rangers Newco could have stayed in the SPL with no intervention. Fan pressure forced the clubs of the SPL to hand out a punishment, which needed a vote. That's not quite true. The SPL's executive board (on behalf of the SPL clubs) could have made a decision on whether or not to allow BrandRangersNewco straight into the SPL (the Executive would have had to have had a vote for any decision to stand). The Clubs however chose to take the decision away from the Executive and have a full vote of all SPL members, including OldRangers. (I suspect fan pressure led them to that decision). What it definately wasn't, was a punishment. No matter which way you look at it, BrandRangersNewco had to apply for membership, either via the Executive or via the full SPL membership. Yours aDONis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Its equivalent to all the big clubs getting a new strip every season. A new look and a new start. Maybe you could liven it up with a tale about sacking folk... -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Fan pressure forced the clubs of the SPL to hand out a punishment Were Rangers fans sleeping during all of this or are they actually this stupid? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, aDONisSheep said: That's not quite true. The SPL's executive board (on behalf of the SPL clubs) could have made a decision on whether or not to allow BrandRangersNewco straight into the SPL (the Executive would have had to have had a vote for any decision to stand). The Clubs however chose to take the decision away from the Executive and have a full vote of all SPL members, including OldRangers. (I suspect fan pressure led them to that decision). What it definately wasn't, was a punishment. No matter which way you look at it, BrandRangersNewco had to apply for membership, either via the Executive or via the full SPL membership. Yours aDONis Whether you want to debate if it was a punishment or not is sort of irrelevant. The 5 way agreement clearly shows that Rangers were a continuation club, otherwise the SFA and SFL would have been breaking their own entry rules. It would have been quite possible that Rangers could have stayed in the top flight without penalty. Rangers applied to the SPL board to allow them to transfer their share from Oldco to Newco. Kilmarnock made it clear they wanted Rangers to stay up and Motherwell issued some financial guidance as to the dangers of losses without Rangers in the league. The SPL rejected that application. Rangers then applied to join the SFL and were accepted. Both those requests for change in their SPL share and SFL membership required that Rangers remained full members of the SFA throughout the whole process. So it comes down to the whole Club vs Company stuff which imo is pretty simple. The SFA are an organisation for Clubs, the SFL and SPL were organisations for companies. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Maybe you could liven it up with a tale about sacking folk... What the hell are you talking about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, bennett said: Maybe you could liven it up with a tale about sacking folk... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: What the hell are you talking about? You understood it perfectly well Walter. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 You understood it perfectly well Walter. Sorry, you're an idiot. Remind me again what it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Whether you want to debate if it was a punishment or not is sort of irrelevant. The 5 way agreement clearly shows that Rangers were a continuation club, otherwise the SFA and SFL would have been breaking their own entry rules. It would have been quite possible that Rangers could have stayed in the top flight without penalty. In bold in red. The associations rewrote their rule books the year before Rangers went tits up so that they could rewrite their own entry rules to claim a shambolic continuity. They removed their insolvency rule that effectively killed off any club that entered into the liquidation procedure just in time before Rangers entered the act of liquidation the very next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Just now, Drew Brees said: Sorry, you're an idiot. Remind me again what it is. Bennett making a c**t out of himself is what it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Deary me what an awfull awfull thread . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: The 5 way agreement clearly shows that Rangers were a continuation club, So who's in this Pentaverate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Forever_blueco said: Deary me what an awfull awfull thread . Indeed. The state of Kincardine losing his shit has caused it to descend into chaos & madness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This is abysmal, please somebody take it down. "Aye we are. No yer no. Aye we are. No yer no". What a pathetic shower of imbeciles on this thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Ooft, what's Bennett getting at here? Absolute creep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: Ooft, what's Bennett getting at here? Absolute creep. Don't expect an answer from that snivelling wee shitebag. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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