Public menace Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 No. The question is why has it taken so long? The other question is why tell half a story? Name and shame them! This is only the beginning. When Gilmore left St Mirren he admitted the Scottish game is being run for the benefit of one clubOne club? Or one company? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guts Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 More on George Peat. 15 minutes ago, BobWilliamson said: No. The question is why has it taken so long? The other question is why tell half a story? Name and shame them! This is only the beginning. When Gilmore left St Mirren he admitted the Scottish game is being run for the benefit of one club Haha what a cheek you have. More on Geo Peat; Former SFA president George Peat was asked by the BBC this week what regrets he had from his time at the SFA. There should be an abundance of items on that list, but there was only one – that a club asked him not to change competition rules to help Rangers with their fixtures in 2008. In 2009, during Peat’s time as president, the SFA were subject to a Schedule 36 notice from HMRC demanding Rangers players’ contract details to be handed over. This was the time HMRC were building a case against Rangers, who disclosed one contract to the tax authority and the SFA, but decided against lodging a second contract, for EBT payments with either body. The SFA were in a unique position to counsel Rangers on correct process. Had they done so, Rangers would have been advised that they were in breach of SFA and SPL player registration rules, which required them to submit all contracts to the sport’s governing bodies. The SFA would subsequently be obliged to forward these contracts to HMRC and the tax crisis, which ultimately liquidated Rangers, would have occurred when the club benefited from the support of Champions League income. As it happened, George Peat did nothing, Rangers continued to play improperly registered players for a further three years, and Rangers sold for £1 before being liquidated. Peat, an accountant, made his way through the SFA as a director of Airdrieoneans. Despite his financial background, Airdrieoneans were liquidated in 2002 after a legendary period of mismanagement. Peat, SFA treasurer and vice-president, would have had to resign his position at the Association, but managed to cling on after becoming a director of Stenhousemuir. A year after Peat retired as SFA president, but when he was still at Stenhousemuir, his team were the only club to vote to allow Newco Rangers direct access to the Scottish Football League Championship. Peat did not get his wish and Newco started life in the bottom tier of the SFL. Peat also had the misfortune to lose his Head of Referees in an inappropriate email scandal connected with the visit of the Pope to Scotland. The existence of the email was denied by the SFA until evidence reached the BBC. Perhaps most regretful of all during Peat’s SFA presidency was the handling of the lies told by referee Dougie McDonald after a Dundee United-Celtic game in 2010. McDonald lied to Celtic manager, Neil Lennon and asked his assistant referees to affirm the lie. It became evident that linesman Steve Craven was not prepared to do so and McDonald came clean to the SFA. Despite this, the Association conspired to hold the line, as Craven claimed the Association twice asked him to stick to the lie. All of this was reported openly but it was only the Celtic manager who was lied to, so Peat found no reason to consider his position, or anything regretful in the actions of the SFA. He was replaced as president by a recipient and signatory of Rangers EBTs, Campbell Ogilvie. Despite Ogilvie’s acknowledged “heavily conflicted” status, it is telling that he was considered more even-handed than his predecessor. As it happens, the subject of Peat’s one regret was ignored, the season was extended to accommodate Rangers fixture congestion, but in a twist of irony, they lost the title to Celtic and Uefa Cup final to Zenit. George Peat is a perfect example of dysfunction at the SFA. An accountant at a liquidated club who rose from Association treasurer to president. He should be a national embarrassment, a salutary lesson on poor governance. But he’s not. In fact, he is not even that exceptional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, BobWilliamson said: No. The question is why has it taken so long? The other question is why tell half a story? Name and shame them! This is only the beginning. When Gilmore left St Mirren he admitted the Scottish game is being run for the benefit of one club Did you listen to sportsound? Darryl broadfoot called George peat the Prince Phillip of the SFA plus perception was his mantra, perception is other peoples reality for 7 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Sevco scum will cling to anything to try justify the myth they were harshly treated. You cheated then you died.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Willy kidding on he gives a f**k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMLISCH Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Think most Bears will be truly shocked at this revelation, who would have thought it!!?https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/45550817 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The big thing for me that season was we won it for Tommy burns plus Gordon strachan said later he didn't know there was a tax haven in govan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Think most Bears will be truly shocked at this revelation, who would have thought it!!? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/45550817Wish they would name the chairman so I could buy him a pint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, HAMLISCH said: He's not a chairman, do celtic fans know anything about their own club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Wish they would name the chairman so I could buy him a pint. You advocating civil unrest or matchsticks on George peat's eye's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 A bad day for the reserve team, Doondee United scored against them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 hours ago, RedRob72 said: Think most Bears will be truly shocked at this revelation, who would have thought it!!?https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/45550817 I am shocked, Rab. In the nasty, bitter, parochial wee country that Scotland has become Peat only received one such call? Clearly another example of club chairmen being out of touch with their fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: I am shocked, Rab. In the nasty, bitter, parochial wee country that Scotland has become Peat only received one such call? Clearly another example of club chairmen being out of touch with their fans. Let's not forget the despicable b*****d that is Gordon Smith. He actively proposed shifting the Scottish Cup final to midweek. Swine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) To use some currently vogue phrases - Peat's pronouncements here seem to be examples of "alternative facts" and "fake news". Rangers were granted an extension to the league season, with 2 games played after the intended end date. It is known Gordon Smith - and presumably we can also include Peat - wanted to move the Scottish Cup Final back to the Wednesday night, inside the start of the Euro 2008 release period, in order to allow that extension to be longer. Quite rightly this was ruled out. Cup final on a weeknight?! If nothing else it would have been terrible for QotS and their fans. Of course 2 outstanding games were caused by cancelling v Gretna ahead of CL game v Lyon (lost 3-0) and waterlogged Ibrox pitch v East Stirlingshire. Edited September 19, 2018 by HibeeJibee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 23 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: Maybe the club wanted no help given to the company? Or versa vice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Never really understood this argument to be honest.Rangers kid on that what they wanted help with was to win the UEFA cup. Nonsense. They wanted help to win the UEFA cup and also for it not to f**k up their chances of winning the league and Scottish cup as well. So QoTS, already having about a 100th of the investment in the squad as their team, were going to be expected to play the final of the Scottish cup midweek, with maybe half the support they’d have got on a Saturday, because rangers might be tired? Utter drivel. Winning every trophy you enter is so difficult because of the amount of games and consistency of performance required to do so. It’s part of why that achievement is so impressive. I don’t see why any football association in any country would be expected to bend the fixture list to assist a club in achieving it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 If Rangers (or any other Scottish team) were running away with it that year, or if anyone else was, and the league was all but wrapped up I'd have no qualms with changing dates of games to suit the team in Europe. I doubt many folk would. But ye can't help a Scottish club in European competition to the detriment of the domestic league. If fixtures had been shoogled about and Rangers won the league thanks to a goal by a striker who would have been suspended or injured for the original tie ye'd be ragin' if it was your club that came second. Disnae matter tho'. Rangers are deid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Disnae matter tho'. Rangers are deid.That’s really the key thing, it would’ve been a shame for Zenit to lose the UEFA or Celtic the league to the cheating old club, especially for it to just get wiped away with the records 4 years later.Everyone was a winner in my book. Justice was done. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 21 hours ago, BobWilliamson said: When Gilmore left St Mirren he admitted the Scottish game is being run for the benefit of one club They are the people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Rangers couldn't postpone their death, and that is the best thing that ever happened in the sordid history of that vile club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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