jmothecat Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 And? Tony Blair was the leader of the Labour Party. He was. The glory days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It really wouldn't surprise me if you believed in these anti-BBC conspiracies. You probably felt the BBC was biased against the yes campaign in the Indy ref too. When BBC Scotland were found guilty of misleading viewers during the referendum,guess what side benefited from their misleading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I'm a member of the Labour Party. No I'm a member of the labour party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, jmothecat said: He was. The glory days. Mark, 8:36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Crazies on all sides point the finger at the BBC when things aren't going well. Best ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Crazies on all sides point the finger at the BBC when things aren't going well. Best ignored. 'Lalalalala...'(Watches TV news and sits nodding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, BerwickMad said: Crazies on all sides point the finger at the BBC when things aren't going well. Best ignored. A person who wants Owen Smith as leader of Labour there, calling other people crazy. Lolz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 They were "found guilty"??? By who?? The BBC Trust.'The BBC exists to serve the public, and its mission is to inform, educate and entertain. The BBC Trust is the governing body of the BBC, and we make sure the BBC delivers that mission.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I see that Corbyn and McDonnell have announced an idea on medical research funding that would either end most of it in this country or bankrupt the NHS. Jolly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 3 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: So you want a strong Tory fiercer meant and no opposition?? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 2 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: The BBC isn't accusing him of it- the MPs are and the BBC are reporting it- what they meant to do? The story is balanced and fair. They've posted both sides of the story- they detailed the accusations and then they detailed the response from Corbyn and the accusation from McCluskey that MI5 were behind it. The have presented possibly more information on the accusations but as they are the point of the article this is to be expected. Pick out some language used by the actual BBC writer that is biased- I don't see any. Looks completely impartial to me. I think the BBC is probably a bit anti-Corbyn. Not in some grand conspiracy, men sitting around a smoke-filled room laughing maniacally but more in a 'he's the kid at school who everyone's bullying so why not join in' kind of way. The issue isn't that the article is overtly biased, the issue is that ridiculous unfounded smears against Corbyn are constantly given air time by the BBC. Even if every piece is reported factually once people hear 'Corbyn accused of anti-semitism' over and over and over, a lot of people decide he probably is an anti-semite. Once they hear that he's encouraging thugs to intimidate people over and over and over, they start to believe it. It's also giving completely unfounded accusations equal footing with facts and actual events. If I go into the BBC and say 'I'm going to accuse Owen Smith of being a paedophile' should he or one of his team really have to defend himself from that accusation on the 6 o'clock news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I see that Corbyn and McDonnell have announced an idea on medical research funding that would either end most of it in this country or bankrupt the NHS. Jolly good. That'll teach Owen! Ha. You have to laugh. Just a game to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 24 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I think the BBC is probably a bit anti-Corbyn. Not in some grand conspiracy, men sitting around a smoke-filled room laughing maniacally but more in a 'he's the kid at school who everyone's bullying so why not join in' kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 "I think Jeremy should take a little more responsibility for what is going on in the Labour Party," he told the BBC News Channel."After all, we didn't have this kind of abuse, intolerance, misogyny and anti-Semitism in the party before Jeremy Corbyn became leader."What an absolute c**t this guy smith is. He's honestly trying to say Corbyn is responsible for anti-semitism in the Labour Party. A problem that has apparently plagued them for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 That'll teach Owen! Ha. You have to laugh. Just a game to them. This is new - is this a disagreement over policy. Up to this point it's just been vacuous smears and attacks on his character. What is the policy idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 This is new - is this a disagreement over policy. Up to this point it's just been vacuous smears and attacks on his character. What is the policy idea? This. I can't find anything about it.I may be looking in the wrong places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 hour ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: Tartan Tory. Are you really that much of a moron? I don't want the Labour Party to disintegrate because I think unshackled Tory governments will be good. I want it because I think they'll be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 49 minutes ago, pandarilla said: This is new - is this a disagreement over policy. Up to this point it's just been vacuous smears and attacks on his character. What is the policy idea? It started of as a sideswipe at Owen Smith, because he used to work for Pfizer, and now apparently medical research should be organised and funded by the MRC, and not "farmed out to big pharma." I'm under no illusions that the pharmaceutical companies are b*****ds, but it's a mental idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Interesting article by Kevin McKenna http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14637934.Kevin_McKenna__Why_the_powers_that_be_fear_Jeremy_Corbyn/?ref=twtrec Words like "unedifying" and "unpleasant" don’t even begin to describe the campaign that the British establishment have undertaken to destroy Jeremy Corbyn. Try "sinister" and "malevolent" and "venomous" instead. Yet, when you assess the nature of the forces which are lined up against him and then observe how his very name brings them to a point where they begin to boil and froth, then you know Mr Corbyn must be a good man. As well as the entire Conservative Party at Westminster and the editors and leader-writers of Britain’s right-wing press, Mr Corbyn is reviled by corporate Britain’s executive class and held in barely concealed contempt by the BBC in London. You can almost smell their fear and you begin to understand that they are out to stop him at all costs. Under no circumstances can an authentic Socialist, red in tooth and claw, be allowed access to the levers of power in the UK. For then, who knows what he might bring down upon these his enemies; each of whom has a stake in the way that business is done in this country and thus has much to lose if Mr Corbyn were ever to gain the keys to 10 Downing Street. Around two thirds of Westminster’s parliamentary Labour Party loathe him too and seem to vie with each other daily in the chamber in their little acts of petty vindictiveness. They all saw how much Hilary Benn was cheered by the forces of the Right when, after dinner, he courageously stepped forward that night to show his support for the bombing of Syrian women and children from his green leather seat in the heart of London. Perhaps they too might have a moment in the sun if their own little well-rehearsed insult could be picked up by the microphone. Later, they would also have a chance to brief the Mail and the Telegraph about how Mr Corbyn had lost the dressing-room. “By the way, that’s Austin with an ‘i’. Yes, and it’s Dudley North and I’ve been a member for 11 years; yes really.” That vote was taken in the House of Commons late at night. Mr Corbyn has experience of those late-night votes. This is what he said not long after he was first elected to Parliament: “Late at night here it's quite disgusting, after the dinners are over and the division bell rings for 10pm, fleets of limousines draw up and out get large Tory MPs with even larger stomachs wearing dinner jackets, and they stride in to vote.” Acquiescent Labour MPs didn’t sacrifice their law and teaching careers and spend all those hours at constituency meetings only to discover they would have to follow a proper Socialist. My God, the man would get them all hung and anyway, hadn’t Tony assured them all Socialism was dead? My God, this man Corbyn actually believes in all that stuff about fairness in the workplace and fighting inequality and making Big Business pay and not wanting to, you know, invade other countries while pretending that they are a threat to the security of the realm. Why can’t Corbyn be just like the rest of us? After all, it said on the brochure that by keeping your head down, not rocking the boat too much and meeting the punters on the doorsteps once every five years you could have quite a nice life and a decent standard of living. Corbyn’s ruining all this. We want to be like Tonee and Gordon and Peter and David. Ah yes; the real spiritual leaders of the anti-Corbyn MPs: Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson, Gordon Brown and David Miliband all revile him too. For they stand for everything Mr Corbyn probably detests. Mr Blair has built a multi-million pound property empire since he demitted office. Lord Mandelson, on the other hand, spent much of his time in office trying to scramble up the property ladder. Mr Brown is working for Pimco, one of the world’s biggest asset managers who advise very rich people how to protect their money. Mr Miliband gets a salary of several hundred thousand a year as the CEO of International Rescue, a humanitarian organisation that is obviously very successful at what it does. You can’t even say Mr Corbyn is a loser; yet they all do. Every by-election on his watch has been won by Labour and four mayoral elections too. George Osborne, the man whom he held responsible for enslaving millions of families with austerity has been defeated, sacked by a new leader who has promised to introduce a fairer deal in the workplace. This is what Mr Corbyn has been all about since he became Labour leader and, as head of the opposition, he has enjoyed success. The party coffers are now swilling with cash to fight future elections thanks to the huge increase in Labour Party memberships. Many of the new members are young people who have been energised by a politician who actually believes what he is saying, rather than one who makes endless compromises with the corporate interests who manipulate Parliament for their own ends. To them, the mother of all parliaments is a place for racketeers and exploiters and those who prostitute their influence in return for a few grand and who claim for milk and paper clips. Mr Corbyn isn’t like that. When the scandal about the extent of MPs' expenses claims first broke he was found to be among the lowest claimants. He wants to re-nationalise the railways, a policy that chimes with a public that has grown weary of profiteering and inefficiency by the train companies. He is supported by many economists who have stated his theories and policies surrounding public sector investment and managing debt and money is a much more equitable matrix for economic recovery. Yet, the public are being given no opportunity to assess and measure Mr Corbyn’s policies for themselves. Instead they are told he is dangerous and he can’t be taken seriously because he doesn’t wear pinstripe suits and doesn’t know how to be properly obeisant to Her Britannic Majesty. BBC London seems to reserve a special contempt for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 hour ago, MarkoRaj said: "I think Jeremy should take a little more responsibility for what is going on in the Labour Party," he told the BBC News Channel. "After all, we didn't have this kind of abuse, intolerance, misogyny and anti-Semitism in the party before Jeremy Corbyn became leader." What an absolute c**t this guy smith is. He's honestly trying to say Corbyn is responsible for anti-semitism in the Labour Party. A problem that has apparently plagued them for years. Hes not exactly clean as a whistle on bullying either. http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2016/07/22/heres-why-owen-smith-really-shouldnt-kick-up-a-fuss-about-bullying/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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