Glen Sannox Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Indeed they did. In many cases on the doors at polling stations, whispering to pensioners as they walked in. Didn't happen you delusional lunatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: Didn't happen you delusional lunatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Didn't happen you delusional lunatic. Fucking minter [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Colkitto said: BMG indyref2 poll in the Herald tomorrow. Online at midnight. To be honest, BMG and the Herald doesn't sound like a good combination for a positive Yes result, but we'll see... Todays poll is 48 - 52 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SweeperDee Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 That's not too bad. Shows we have a good starting base this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Page 15 in tomorrow's publication, featuring David Torrance, looks like an uncomfortable read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 That's not too bad. Shows we have a good starting base this time around. Yeah but it's not like last time. People will be far harder to convince. Many of the arguments are well worn now and then there's the pissed off factor that thinks this has already been dealt with. As much as some yes voters are unhappy with this point being repeated by the Tories and labour it is a very legitimate point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Yeah but it's not like last time. People will be far harder to convince. Many of the arguments are well worn now and then there's the pissed off factor that thinks this has already been dealt with. As much as some yes voters are unhappy with this point being repeated by the Tories and labour it is a very legitimate point. On the flip side, there are things going for Yes this time. The amount of promises No made last time which turned out to be lies can be factually proven now, Brexit is obviously a biggie and there are something like 220,000 young people who will be eligible to vote who weren't old enough in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The SNP/Greens have to do three things imo 1. Absolutely nail the currency question 2. Be prepared to nail the inevitable bullshit about pensions. Most of them are entrenched Unionists, however there were a few who voted No because they believed BT's pish about their pensions being fucked over. If even a small percentage of them can be won over, plus a sizeable vote from EU citizens then there's a good chance. 3. Think carefully who they're sending out to TV debates/panels. I'm thinking especially back to Stewart Hosie's clusterfuck of a performance right before the 2014 referendum. Big hitters only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: 3. Think carefully who they're sending out to TV debates/panels. I'm thinking especially back to Stewart Hosie's clusterfuck of a performance right before the 2014 referendum. Big hitters only. And Elaine C fucking Smith. That was a fucking embarrassment. Agree, big hitters only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Fide said: And Elaine C fucking Smith. That was a fucking embarrassment. Agree, big hitters only. It'll be the same few then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Fide said: And Elaine C fucking Smith. That was a fucking embarrassment. Agree, big hitters only. I'd forgotten about that shambles. Cheers Fide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: I'd forgotten about that shambles. Cheers Fide She was so out of her depth she was almost treading water. Mind, that was balanced with the beauty of Anas Sarwar pleading with the STV debate host for hauners. (ETA: In a different debate, obvs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: The SNP/Greens have to do three things imo 1. Absolutely nail the currency question 2. Be prepared to nail the inevitable bullshit about pensions. Most of them are entrenched Unionists, however there were a few who voted No because they believed BT's pish about their pensions being fucked over. If even a small percentage of them can be won over, plus a sizeable vote from EU citizens then there's a good chance. 3. Think carefully who they're sending out to TV debates/panels. I'm thinking especially back to Stewart Hosie's clusterfuck of a performance right before the 2014 referendum. Big hitters only. 4. Come out and just fight any bullshit that people come out with, and do it as quickly and as publically as possible. There was far too much standing on the sidelines and watching it happen last time. Fair enough on a measured approach, but people will buy into any old bullshit that gets peddled and it needs to get dealt with sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I reckon publishing details of the recent inter-governmental meetings on Brexit ought to do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: 4. Come out and just fight any bullshit that people come out with, and do it as quickly and as publically as possible. There was far too much standing on the sidelines and watching it happen last time. Fair enough on a measured approach, but people will buy into any old bullshit that gets peddled and it needs to get dealt with sharpish. The Yes campaign was content last time to play a (weirdly polite and detached) defence. The regionalists were in full-on attack. That can't be allowed to happen again. Scotland's constitutional position in the UK being democratically unacceptable should be a major line of attack, rather than a venerable status quo that attacks the normal position of statehood and sovereignty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Antlion said: The Yes campaign was content last time to play a (weirdly polite and detached) defence. The regionalists were in full-on attack. That can't be allowed to happen again. Scotland's constitutional position in the UK being democratically unacceptable should be a major line of attack, rather than a venerable status quo that attacks the normal position of statehood and sovereignty. It is true that a lie can be halfway round the world before the truth gets it's boots on. Attack is definitely the best form of defence for Indyref2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You are pretty much all trolls on here FFS - running around everywhere throwing personal abuse at anyone who doesn't agree with you. Seriously? Have you no self awareness at all? f**k off knobrash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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