The East Kilbride FC Thread

[Brazilianlex]

11 minutes ago, Oystercatcher said:

Why does invested money upset so many football fans?

It's not 1876 ffs 

I think it’s because most of these rich man’s train set Clubs try to make some claim they are not rich. Just admit it and then be judged on the budget you have at your disposal.

[Hauzen]

30 minutes ago, Darvel legend said:

He’s the best seller of a club I’ve ever heard 

Thanks, I'm genuinely interested as an EK resident with a keen interest in the club (should go more than I do) then really want to see them progress.

They've obviously tried some "bigger" names in the likes of Stephen Aitken, Martin Lauchlan, Billy Stark, Brian Kerr.. and not made it to the league set up with any of them.

I think of all the clubs that have gone I to the league since progression was made available then EK should have a realistic chance of sustaining higher division membership - still pains me with the playoff defeat to Cove when looking at where they are because they should have the potential to do similar.

Hope Kennedy can do what all the others before him have not managed.

[Darvel legend]

4 minutes ago, Hauzen said:

Thanks, I'm genuinely interested as an EK resident with a keen interest in the club (should go more than I do) then really want to see them progress.

They've obviously tried some "bigger" names in the likes of Stephen Aitken, Martin Lauchlan, Billy Stark, Brian Kerr.. and not made it to the league set up with any of them.

I think of all the clubs that have gone I to the league since progression was made available then EK should have a realistic chance of sustaining higher division membership - still pains me with the playoff defeat to Cove when looking at where they are because they should have the potential to do similar.

Hope Kennedy can do what all the others before him have not managed.

 Be amazed if he doesn’t but what I do know he will put absolutely everything into it , a massive loss to darvel 

[Oystercatcher]

54 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

I think it’s because most of these rich man’s train set Clubs try to make some claim they are not rich. Just admit it and then be judged on the budget you have at your disposal.

I don't think East Kilbride have ever pretended that 

If anything EK have been a club that has been known for its investment and underachieved.

 

[johnmc80]

4 hours ago, Darvel legend said:

great man manager and will attract some standard of player to the club , brilliant appointment from East Kilbride 

He takes alot of stick on here. Most of it is the green eyed monster type of stick right enough. No doubt, he is a bit flashy. And has alot to say for himself. But i dont mind it. The guy just loves football. And fair play to him, he comes on here and has his say when he feels the need to. I’ve played against his teams when he was in the ametures. He was the same then. Just wanted to win. And most of the time he did. 
he has always had the money thing flung at him. Even when he was at colville. Guys getting paid for every goal they scored and all that shite. There was probably a wee bit of truth in it. But not the arms and legs it grew to. 
One thing that is for sure though is he is a fantastic man manager. Boys want to play for him. He creates an enviroment that guys want to be around. He has shown that all the way through. The core of his side at darvel came with him from colville park. 
He is undoubtly a gamble at this level. And it could go tits up. But the appointment has got me perked up more than most other options. 
Cheque book manager is the cry. And what? Is he meant to set his bar at the relegation hopefulls? He is a decent manager. Thats why he is getting touted at clubs with money.

i,ve no idea how this will pan out. And knowing ek it will probably end in missery. But feck it. Its been some ride so far. 
 

Best of luck mick.

[JuniorRaver]

Good luck to Mick and Si, I really hope they can make EK successful id love to see them in the SPFL.

Question is how long before they jump ship if I doesn’t work out, can we see an OG round 2 going on here? Give them a season or 2 

[Brazilianlex]

5 hours ago, JuniorRaver said:

Good luck to Mick and Si, I really hope they can make EK successful id love to see them in the SPFL.

Question is how long before they jump ship if I doesn’t work out, can we see an OG round 2 going on here? Give them a season or 2 

Good news for the OG Broomhill lads that are out of contract ?

[johnmc80]

17 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

Good news for the OG Broomhill lads that are out of contract ?

Most of them are on a 2 year deal.

[19QOS19]

On 22/04/2023 at 22:04, Oystercatcher said:

Why does invested money upset so many football fans?

It's not 1876 ffs 

 

On 23/04/2023 at 01:59, johnmc80 said:

He takes alot of stick on here. Most of it is the green eyed monster type of stick right enough. 

 

I think it's been said already but it's not so much that these type of clubs are well backed that gets people's backs up, it's when they kid on that's not the reason behind their success. Not a pop at EK as I'm not often on here so can't say if your supporters are like that or not. But when you read the drivel that Darvel fan keeps spouting you can see why folk have a go. "Kennedy can sell a club": I'm sure I could sell a club that pays the best wages as well. Let me know when he gets a gig at Albion Rovers or Gretna and can bring in players "who just want to play for him!!!" there. Utter nonsense. 

[johnmc80]

33 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

 

 

I think it's been said already but it's not so much that these type of clubs are well backed that gets people's backs up, it's when they kid on that's not the reason behind their success. Not a pop at EK as I'm not often on here so can't say if your supporters are like that or not. But when you read the drivel that Darvel fan keeps spouting you can see why folk have a go. "Kennedy can sell a club": I'm sure I could sell a club that pays the best wages as well. Let me know when he gets a gig at Albion Rovers or Gretna and can bring in players "who just want to play for him!!!" there. Utter nonsense. 

I honestly think if he went to albion rovers tomorrow, he would be able to put together a squad that would improve them. His contact list in the game seems to be very decent. Ive no doubt he would improve a team at the bottom overnight. Thats just my opinion. Could be miles off. Guys do want to play for him. In not daft. I know money is a main factor to most. But he does seem to be a draw for players money aside.
just think its harsh to label him as a money manager. He is well thought of and thats why he has ended up at clubs with wealthy backers. Thats the way it goes. 
 

Ps, you wont need to be on here much to gauge the opinion of the ek support. Theres about 4 of us.

[Crazy Feet]

Si is a brilliant coach and Mick has the contacts (which Si will have also after his playing career). That alongside the financial backing, then there's no reason they shouldn't be a success.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Crazy Feet

[Big Fifer]

1 hour ago, 19QOS19 said:

 

 

I think it's been said already but it's not so much that these type of clubs are well backed that gets people's backs up, it's when they kid on that's not the reason behind their success. Not a pop at EK as I'm not often on here so can't say if your supporters are like that or not. But when you read the drivel that Darvel fan keeps spouting you can see why folk have a go. "Kennedy can sell a club": I'm sure I could sell a club that pays the best wages as well. Let me know when he gets a gig at Albion Rovers or Gretna and can bring in players "who just want to play for him!!!" there. Utter nonsense. 

This. 

It was the same when Kelty were firing up the leagues. Fans constantly claiming it was about the "environment for the players", the "great facilities" etc. All the while ignoring the wads of cash being thrown at players signing from two divisions above. No issue with clubs showing "ambition", but just be honest about what "ambition" actually is. Most of the fans of other clubs that are passing comment on this (including East Fife) have went through the enjoyable but often short lives ambitious phases. I'll be interested to see how Kelty fair now that the source of their "ambition" is heading over to Raith Rovers shortly. 

[johnmc80]

34 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

This. 

It was the same when Kelty were firing up the leagues. Fans constantly claiming it was about the "environment for the players", the "great facilities" etc. All the while ignoring the wads of cash being thrown at players signing from two divisions above. No issue with clubs showing "ambition", but just be honest about what "ambition" actually is. Most of the fans of other clubs that are passing comment on this (including East Fife) have went through the enjoyable but often short lives ambitious phases. I'll be interested to see how Kelty fair now that the source of their "ambition" is heading over to Raith Rovers shortly. 

The notion that clubs need to be honest about there “ambition” is bizzare to say the least. 
Surely every clubs ambition is to be as good as they can be. Money or no money.

kelty were backed well. Spent the money they had wisely and progresed through the leagues. But this somehow annoyed you because the money men never came on p&b and declared they were minted. 
They did create an enviroment for there players, and there facilities for the level were good. I dont see why that would be a problem for you?

If someone on the board of your club won the lottery and decided to plough it into your club, would you be happy with that? Or would the added “ambition” not be for you?

Edited April 24, 2023 by johnmc80

[Big Fifer]

5 minutes ago, johnmc80 said:

The notion that clubs need to be honest about there “ambition” is bizzare to say the least. 
Surely every clubs ambition is to be as good as they can be. Money or no money.

kelty were backed well. Spent the money they had wisely and progresed through the leagues. But this somehow annoyed you because the money men never came on p&b and declared they were minted. 
They did create an enviroment for there players, and there facilities for the level were good. I dont see why that would be a problem for you?

If someone on the board of your club won the lottery and decided to plough it into your club, would you be happy with that? Or would the added “ambition” not be for you?

No, that would be absolutely great if we had a sustainable benefactor involved, I'd love it! But I wouldn't be pretending that the success that followed was because of a managers dressing room atmosphere or nice training facilities. I would admit - we are going up the leagues because we have someone throwing more money at our club. 

Again, I am sure the facilities and the atmosphere at Kelty were brilliant. But the reason they soared through the leagues wasn't because of that - it was because they had large financial backing. I have absolutely no problem with money getting teams up the leagues. It's fan's pretence that the money isn't the reason that makes people shake their head. 

[Cnock88]

Who they signed then so far 

[johnmc80]

5 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

No, that would be absolutely great if we had a sustainable benefactor involved, I'd love it! But I wouldn't be pretending that the success that followed was because of a managers dressing room atmosphere or nice training facilities. I would admit - we are going up the leagues because we have someone throwing more money at our club. 

Again, I am sure the facilities and the atmosphere at Kelty were brilliant. But the reason they soared through the leagues wasn't because of that - it was because they had large financial backing. I have absolutely no problem with money getting teams up the leagues. It's fan's pretence that the money isn't the reason that makes people shake their head. 

I have never once seen a kelty fan on here with there eyes closed to the fact that money was driving them through the leagues. Money helps create the enviroment that you talk about. And that enviroment no doubt helps. 
its not easy to go through the leagues like they have. Even with mobey being flung at it. It needs to be spent wisely.

My own club are testament to that. Spent fortunes and are still where we started. 
 

[Big Fifer]

1 minute ago, johnmc80 said:

I have never once seen a kelty fan on here with there eyes closed to the fact that money was driving them through the leagues. Money helps create the enviroment that you talk about. And that enviroment no doubt helps. 
its not easy to go through the leagues like they have. Even with mobey being flung at it. It needs to be spent wisely.

My own club are testament to that. Spent fortunes and are still where we started. 
 

There was definitely an element of pretence among their fanbase. A number of SPFL fans including myself were having this same conversation on the Kelty thread (guessing 3-4 years ago maybe, don't fancy searching back frankly) because a few of their fans were suggesting on here that their "brilliant set up" was the reason where they were and were indeed going. It wasn't. They were heavily funded (which is fine!). The money they had was invested very, very wisely - on Championship and League 1 players. As you say, it's easy to get the great dressing room atmosphere when you're outspending the rest of the league and winning games. 

Again, I must repeat this point a further time, I have absolutely no issue with clubs spending money to be successful. I (and others) are simply pointing out that it's only when fans/managers pretend that the money isn't the reason that it gets a bit irritating. And I'll say again, we say it from experience of having had the benefactors around our clubs at some point. 

FWIW being based in Glasgow, assuming we're not going the other direction, I would love it if EK came up. The more games local to me, the better!

[johnmc80]

12 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

There was definitely an element of pretence among their fanbase. A number of SPFL fans including myself were having this same conversation on the Kelty thread (guessing 3-4 years ago maybe, don't fancy searching back frankly) because a few of their fans were suggesting on here that their "brilliant set up" was the reason where they were and were indeed going. It wasn't. They were heavily funded (which is fine!). The money they had was invested very, very wisely - on Championship and League 1 players. As you say, it's easy to get the great dressing room atmosphere when you're outspending the rest of the league and winning games. 

Again, I must repeat this point a further time, I have absolutely no issue with clubs spending money to be successful. I (and others) are simply pointing out that it's only when fans/managers pretend that the money isn't the reason that it gets a bit irritating. And I'll say again, we say it from experience of having had the benefactors around our clubs at some point. 

FWIW being based in Glasgow, assuming we're not going the other direction, I would love it if EK came up. The more games local to me, the better!

We have also signed players from leagues above and we are still struggling in lowland league. 
But i take your points on board. 
Hopefully mick can get us moving and give you that local “away” game you are after mate.

[johnmc80]

52 minutes ago, Cnock88 said:

Who they signed then so far 

Charlie mulgrew.

[PossilYM]

On 23/04/2023 at 01:59, johnmc80 said:

He takes alot of stick on here. Most of it is the green eyed monster type of stick right enough. No doubt, he is a bit flashy. And has alot to say for himself. But i dont mind it. The guy just loves football. And fair play to him, he comes on here and has his say when he feels the need to. I’ve played against his teams when he was in the ametures. He was the same then. Just wanted to win. And most of the time he did. 
he has always had the money thing flung at him. Even when he was at colville. Guys getting paid for every goal they scored and all that shite. There was probably a wee bit of truth in it. But not the arms and legs it grew to. 
One thing that is for sure though is he is a fantastic man manager. Boys want to play for him. He creates an enviroment that guys want to be around. He has shown that all the way through. The core of his side at darvel came with him from colville park. 
He is undoubtly a gamble at this level. And it could go tits up. But the appointment has got me perked up more than most other options. 
Cheque book manager is the cry. And what? Is he meant to set his bar at the relegation hopefulls? He is a decent manager. Thats why he is getting touted at clubs with money.

i,ve no idea how this will pan out. And knowing ek it will probably end in missery. But feck it. Its been some ride so far. 
 

Best of luck mick.

Were you ever an indian scout? You've covered more tracks in that than Tonto.