moanthebairns Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 2 hours ago, fruitbowl said: The original post was so full of negativity and general assumption that I couldn't resist succinct comment. So they have tried something different as they have with the league cup. It may not work as well as is hoped overall but only time will tell. I am sure there must be pictures from finals were Falkirk were winners that contradict the idea that no one cares about the competition! For the record I intend to travel to Bala. It's a logistical challenge but I honestly prefer the change in option. I've been there when Falkirk won 3 of these finals and I can safely say, its meaningless. No one cares, you were lucky to get a song going, the opposition brought a thousand or so, the games were shit and after you won it you were left in the pub thinking, I cant believe it, why the f**k is the final on a Sunday. I get that people like yourself welcome change, I do. however I sit in bewilderment that people accept this as an excuse for piss poor innovation. There is no structured criticism of it, just "lets give it a go" hoping that it doesn't kill of the current dropping interest in Scottish Football. I must say though, Its great you fancy going to Bala and I hope you really enjoy it. But the sad fact is, Alloa cant take more than 50-75 to Falkirk that's 16 miles away, nor to Easter road which is 30 mile away. Whats the total going to be on an almost 300 mile trip for the Irn Bru Cup. The huge problem with this idea is there is only 4 or 5 teams in the cup out of 30 odd that would take a respectable support. Even if Alloa fans buy into this, its still going to look utterly pathetic, Livi's traveling support will be worse. If they want to introduce welsh, Irish teams fine. But i'd sooner they did it like the Texaco cup. Clubs from each nation that couldn't get into Europe, followed by league cup winner or runner up and a wildcard place for the irn bru, ldv van trophy cup winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbowl Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've been there when Falkirk won 3 of these finals and I can safely say, its meaningless. No one cares, you were lucky to get a song going, the opposition brought a thousand or so, the games were shit and after you won it you were left in the pub thinking, I cant believe it, why the f**k is the final on a Sunday. I get that people like yourself welcome change, I do. however I sit in bewilderment that people accept this as an excuse for piss poor innovation. There is no structured criticism of it, just "lets give it a go" hoping that it doesn't kill of the current dropping interest in Scottish Football. I must say though, Its great you fancy going to Bala and I hope you really enjoy it. But the sad fact is, Alloa cant take more than 50-75 to Falkirk that's 16 miles away, nor to Easter road which is 30 mile away. Whats the total going to be on an almost 300 mile trip for the Irn Bru Cup. The huge problem with this idea is there is only 4 or 5 teams in the cup out of 30 odd that would take a respectable support. Even if Alloa fans buy into this, its still going to look utterly pathetic, Livi's traveling support will be worse. If they want to introduce welsh, Irish teams fine. But i'd sooner they did it like the Texaco cup. Clubs from each nation that couldn't get into Europe, followed by league cup winner or runner up and a wildcard place for the irn bru, ldv van trophy cup winners. Wasps 1 would probably support your view on the Irn Bru cup but it does mean something to the majority of Alloa supporters. I guess it's relative to realistic ambitions of your own club. In closing I must say the only singing I can recall at TFS has come from Tony Christie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Talbot Loons Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, SUPERSOUTH said: So when will the rest of the club's know if selected for live TV or not? Given that Forfar isn't on TV, then the Bala v Alloa match will kick off at 5.15 on 8th October for live coverage on S4C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 20 hours ago, Port Talbot Loons said: Given that Forfar isn't on TV, then the Bala v Alloa match will kick off at 5.15 on 8th October for live coverage on S4C. What a time to be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Crusaders v Livi announced as Friday fucking night at 7:45pm Not like the SPFL to completely forget about the fans and get on the knees for the tv companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Jesus f**k man, of course they did utterly mental, yet can't help feeling unsurprised at some level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, andylivi1 said: Crusaders v Livi announced as Friday fucking night at 7:45pm Not like the SPFL to completely forget about the fans and get on the knees for the tv companies. That has made me absolutely raging. That's your punishment for beating Celtic U20s when Scotland evidently needs a strong Celtic U20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 The entire point of these changes was to try and maximise any potential revenue available, which is why bampot ideas like U20 teams and foreign teams getting thrown in at R4 are now present. Of course the fans were going to be bottom of the pile of concerns. Worst of it, I'm not even surprised by this. Not sure I'll be able to go now, was leaning towards an overnight stay even if the game was on a Saturday so not much has changed. Easy enough to get a day off but it's fucked over the majority of folk going, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam_barnett Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 From SPFL site: Friday October 7, 2016 Crusaders v Livingston Live on Premier Sports, kick-off 7.45pm Saturday October 8, 2016 Bala Town v Alloa Athletic Live on S4C, kick-off 1.00pm Sunday October 9, 2016 Queen of the South v Linfield Live on BBC ALBA, kick-off 1.00pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 What a slap in the face for actual fans wanting to attend games. Livingston fans have to get to Belfast for the Friday evening, and either stay over or travel overnight... Alloa fans have to get back from Bala on the Saturday night if they don't want to stay over actually I see now kick-off is 1pm, not the previously advertised 5:15pm... Linfield fans have to get to Dumfries for Sunday lunchtime. Real shockers. Are Linfield OK with playing on Sunday, incidentally? According to Wikipedia (which may well be wrong) they are among Northern Irish clubs with a clause forbidding Sabbath play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: What a slap in the face for actual fans wanting to attend games. Livingston fans have to get to Belfast for the Friday evening, and stay over... Alloa fans have to get back from Bala on the Saturday night if they don't want to stay over actually I see now kick-off is 1pm, not the previously advertised 5:15pm... Linfield fans have to get to Dumfries for Sunday lunchtime. Real shockers. Are Linfield OK with playing on Sunday, incidentally? According to Wikipedia (which may well be wrong) they are among Northern Irish clubs with a clause forbidding Sabbath play. Stenna have organised travel for Linfield fans Good deal £39 ferry and bus return to palmerston Park. Hopefully the sunday @ 1pm will attract a big crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: What a slap in the face for actual fans wanting to attend games. What a slap in the face for Forfar and New Saints! Clearly not a good enough draw for live tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Doubt they'll mind. No money for being on TV in this cup, unless you consider the glamour of appearing live on S4C to have some value beyond money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: What a slap in the face for actual fans wanting to attend games. Livingston fans have to get to Belfast for the Friday evening, and either stay over or travel overnight... Alloa fans have to get back from Bala on the Saturday night if they don't want to stay over actually I see now kick-off is 1pm, not the previously advertised 5:15pm... Linfield fans have to get to Dumfries for Sunday lunchtime. Real shockers. Are Linfield OK with playing on Sunday, incidentally? According to Wikipedia (which may well be wrong) they are among Northern Irish clubs with a clause forbidding Sabbath play. I've already looked at a few options, there is no overnight ferry and I've yet to find any flights leaving Belfast late enough to avoid missing half the game. Its an overnight stay or nothing for Livi fans, unless someone can find something I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 What a slap in the face for Forfar and New Saints! Clearly not a good enough draw for live tv. New Saints and Bala have been drawn together in the Nathaniel MG Cup maybe the TV keeping the live coverage for that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Doubt they'll mind. No money for being on TV in this cup, unless you consider the glamour of appearing live on S4C to have some value beyond money... I was taking the piss, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dens83 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 17k for the winner not worth it is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 8 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: What a slap in the face for actual fans wanting to attend games. Livingston fans have to get to Belfast for the Friday evening, and either stay over or travel overnight... Alloa fans have to get back from Bala on the Saturday night if they don't want to stay over actually I see now kick-off is 1pm, not the previously advertised 5:15pm... Linfield fans have to get to Dumfries for Sunday lunchtime. Real shockers. Are Linfield OK with playing on Sunday, incidentally? According to Wikipedia (which may well be wrong) they are among Northern Irish clubs with a clause forbidding Sabbath play. You can't actually be serious with this, can you? You must be outraged by European competitions - I mean, they play them *midweek* FFS. How are you supposed to get back from Kazakhstan on public transport and still make it to work the next morning? Outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Dens83 said: 17k for the winner not worth it is it First prize is a bit lame. How is the gate money split for the final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, bendan said: You can't actually be serious with this, can you? You must be outraged by European competitions - I mean, they play them *midweek* FFS. How are you supposed to get back from Kazakhstan on public transport and still make it to work the next morning? Outrageous! ^^^ This guy is comparing a Champions League/Europa League tie with Scotland's seventh (at best) most important tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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