Granny Danger Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: Can't believe she's going to survive this! They're now saying it would be stupid to challenge her leadership Actually I can. Whover was PM would be in the same position with the same problems with a majority of Tory MPs realising that their bluster is just bluster and with a growing number of business people being prepared to put their heads above the parapet and saying that business interests must be considered. Anyway, wait until the EU come back and say the plan is not acceptable; then the real fun will start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: Was there not a part of you that voted Leave as well? Could they be the same part? That part was the part that thought a big split in the Scottish/rUK vote would lead to a real push for Independence. Guess I got that wrong too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Gove has just pulled out of a long standing commitment at the last minute......hopefully more shenanigans today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That part was the part that thought a big split in the Scottish/rUK vote would lead to a real push for Independence. Guess I got that wrong too. That's illogical Captain. Unless you were against independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, doulikefish said: Gove has just pulled out If only his father had etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Gove has just pulled out of a long standing commitment at the last minute......hopefully more shenanigans today I saw that, but he was at the Cabinet meeting this morning. Surely he would not attend then resign? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I saw that, but he was at the Cabinet meeting this morning. Surely he would not attend then resign? Davis upstaged him and boris,his resignation (and liam fox) will have to be more spectacular 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 I reckon Fox will leave the chicken coop today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 See all this gammon chat? It's making me hungry, because gammon is fucking delicious.It’ll be even more delicious after Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 It is being suggested on the BBC website that the hardline Brexiteers will make life impossible for May; even if they lose a leadership election they will simply keep voting against her. I would love this to happen but I am wondering if these folk really can be so stupid. If they create that much division within their own ranks Corbyn might yet have a chance in a GE due to Tory voters not voting or losing votes to LibDems and/or UKIP. Minority Labour government depending on SNP votes would be glorious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Scary Bear said: It’ll be even more delicious after Brexit. When we sign an amazing trade deal with the USA we’ll even be able to eat the hogs’ pickled feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The farcity appears to be accelerating recently. I never liked Brian Rix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Antlion said: When we sign an amazing trade deal with the USA we’ll even be able to eat the hogs’ pickled feet. So long as they’re washed in chlorine first. I’m not eating them unless they’ve been washed in chlorine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: Lots of battle metaphors flying around the Brexit nutcases this morning. The Daily Mail in its lead article sets the tone.....'negotiators sent into battle with white flags'.....there's not much honour in Johnson 'being second over the top'........the UK will have 'colonial status'......May will 'stand and fight for the country'......Johnson 'declares war on Chequers plan'. All that within the first paragraph. It's a rather frightening view into the mind of your average right-wing fanatic. Do people really see this as a 'conflict situation' ? What a pathetic, wee, parochial, backwards, inferior country the UK has become. Continually having the need to fight some kind of historical battles about something. Drag yourself into the 21st century, you utter c*nts. This ^^^ totally. My guilty secret (not any more) is reading the comments in the Express, Mail, Sun. It's a constant stream of warfare metaphors. (and total stupidity) When I was growing up in Scotland, I had an unfounded dislike of " the English" but having lived among them for nearly a decade, I now realise that I was absolutely correct.* * That was mainly for comic effect. Of course they are not all f*ckwit c*nts but they do seem to be in the majority. Several folk down here have expressed solidarity with the Scots re brexit but not the guy who wants to "cut out Sturgeon's tongue and shoot her in the head". You would think brexiters would understand 'taking back control'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 The EU is laughing at us here. The mighty blighty scared to leave and reduced to colony status. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Interesting that Barnier now believes 80% of Brexit has been agreed, given that the Brexit Chequers deal seems to want to go Carte Blanche on the 4 freedoms. Possibly he knows that's only for public consumption and the UK will accept access on EU terms down the line. At least it means a probable soft Brexit, albeit with a lot of damage already done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 It also seems unlikely that the Brexiteers have the strength to force a leadership election, and no obvious champion should they do so. Davis won't want it, Boris will, but the party will have seen right through him. Only Gove, should he walk, would seem like an obvious candidate, and even then it looks very unlikely he'd win. You also can't imagine a properly Brexity PM immediately going to the country for a fresh mandate. So, if May can hang on, she'll be in a position to concede to every EU demand for a soft Brexit, with no way of Labour outflanking her, and the Brexiteers marginalised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Interesting that Barnier now believes 80% of Brexit has been agreed, given that the Brexit Chequers deal seems to want to go Carte Blanche on the 4 freedoms. Possibly he knows that's only for public consumption and the UK will accept access on EU terms down the line. At least it means a probable soft Brexit, albeit with a lot of damage already done.I thought nothing was agreed until everything was agreed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, renton said: Interesting that Barnier now believes 80% of Brexit has been agreed, given that the Brexit Chequers deal seems to want to go Carte Blanche on the 4 freedoms. Possibly he knows that's only for public consumption and the UK will accept access on EU terms down the line. At least it means a probable soft Brexit, albeit with a lot of damage already done. There was an Irish woman (who I'm too disinterested to know about) on Newsnight last night being interviewed, as she's vice-something of the EU. She was saying that the EU weren't able to negotiate yet, as Britain hadn't tabled any proposals, therefore there was nothing to negotiate? So if nothing has been negotiated, surely nothing has been agreed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, renton said: Interesting that Barnier now believes 80% of Brexit has been agreed, given that the Brexit Chequers deal seems to want to go Carte Blanche on the 4 freedoms. Possibly he knows that's only for public consumption and the UK will accept access on EU terms down the line. At least it means a probable soft Brexit, albeit with a lot of damage already done. Nobody wants a 'no deal' (apart from the nutcases), and Barnier is saying this to help prop up May. I'd imagine the remaining 20% will be a customs arrangement which will be Norway-like in almost every way. This will also solve the Irish problem, and make the best....although it's still utter shite......of a bad lot. I would also imagine that Barnier and the EU will allow May some kind of leeway to spin this as a 'victory for the UK', to try an enable her to save some kind of face with the extremists. In reality though, we'll end up with BINO......which is what was always going to happen. Oh, and May will be gone within a year. Edited July 10, 2018 by Bob Mahelp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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