J_Stewart Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Lads, it’s alright, Brexit’s no happening, we’ve been saved. Uri Gellar has entered the fray:I’ll admit I was worried for a minute, but we can all set our minds at ease now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudBairn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Not too well up on this but could we not just stay in the EEA and form our own wee bespoke version on EFTA? Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein don't sound to keen on having the constant whine of moaning Brits honing in on their patch. Our reputation for silky diplomatic skills has taken a bit of a battering, and they're getting on quite fine on their own, and keeping a cordial and friendly relationship with the EU. Which we'd more than likely f**k up overnight, bit like the Crusaders arriving at Byzantium. The Norway plus deal I believe is the bespoke EFTA deal. If it’s not I cannot see the EU finding it too hard too draft something up based on it. I am sure I heard the UK were offered Norway plus or Canada plus at the outset, as this would have made for good starting point. They declined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Over 4 million sign that petition In Plymouth but... https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/brexit-ferry-protest-plymouth-no-2677855 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: Over 4 million sign that petition In Plymouth but... https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/brexit-ferry-protest-plymouth-no-2677855 Quote "People on Facebook were saying they're coming - they but haven't turned up. "I feel sorry for people having to to grow up in this country. I'm advising my kids to leave the country - to go to Greece or somewhere." Quote Lin Taylor-Greep said: "So many people so full of it online - Plymouth is a damp, limp lettuce. "I was the first here and nearly went home. This is laughable." Edited March 23, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, J_Stewart said: Lads, it’s alright, Brexit’s no happening, we’ve been saved. Uri Gellar has entered the fray: I’ll admit I was worried for a minute, but we can all set our minds at ease now. I knew that was going to happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 Any deal without freedom of movement will be passed. Hilarious thing is it will all be the same but with UK paying for access...with no say. Strong and Stable, taking back control etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I knew that was going to happen^^^ URI Geller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Is there any evidence EFTA would accept the UK as a member? Would the Brexiters accept freedom of movement?The ERG wouldn't but your average non gammony Brexit supporter would have.Most Remain supporters would have accepted an EFTA type deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 From a Scottish perspective there must be a relaxation on Freedom Of Movement otherwise the impact on the economy will be horrendous. Soubry on TV just now saying she wants May to go but “...certainly doesn’t want the government to go.” Frightened at the thought of a General Election Anna? I wonder why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 From a Scottish perspective there must be a relaxation on Freedom Of Movement otherwise the impact on the economy will be horrendous. Soubry on TV just now saying she wants May to go but “...certainly doesn’t want the government to go.” Frightened at the thought of a General Election Anna? I wonder why? She also voted in favour, twice, of Theresa May just a couple of months ago. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 From a Scottish perspective there must be a relaxation on Freedom Of Movement otherwise the impact on the economy will be horrendous. Soubry on TV just now saying she wants May to go but “...certainly doesn’t want the government to go.” Frightened at the thought of a General Election Anna? I wonder why? Do you have a link or two to the research showing how many season workers come into and leave Scotland each year?Given everyone who is here already is welcome to stay then there shouldn't be an instant labour shortage so curious to find out about this in more detail as obviously people will also retire and/or die, have a family, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Do you have a link or two to the research showing how many season workers come into and leave Scotland each year? Given everyone who is here already is welcome to stay then there shouldn't be an instant labour shortage so curious to find out about this in more detail as obviously people will also retire and/or die, have a family, etc. Try reading this, it might help you : https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/02/scotland-needs-take-back-control-immigration-policy-theresa-may 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Do you have a link or two to the research showing how many season workers come into and leave Scotland each year? Given everyone who is here already is welcome to stay then there shouldn't be an instant labour shortage so curious to find out about this in more detail as obviously people will also retire and/or die, have a family, etc. We had producers moaning about losing crop this year due to a lack of workers, it ain't going to get any better once we finally stick the 2 fingers up to them and tell them to f**k off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Do you have a link or two to the research showing how many season workers come into and leave Scotland each year? A wee plug for some former colleagues here https://www.sruc.ac.uk/seasonalworkers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The ERG wouldn't but your average non gammony Brexit supporter would have. Most Remain supporters would have accepted an EFTA type deal. EFTA was what Farage etc were promoting as their preferred option upon leaving the EU for decades. Unfortunately the Leave referendum campaign needed to be anti freedom of movement in order for them to win, and that explains why we are where we are. I still think if May had said she was pursuing EFTA membership upon becoming PM, she could have solved all of this. Instead she spent the best part of a year pretending she favoured a hard Brexit then sold out the ERG by effectively guaraneeting a soft Brexit with the backstop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Thanks, I still maintain there's an element of lazy Scottish people who could do with getting a job and saying that only migrants will take on low paid work seems somewhat exploitative to me but if there is a need to tweak the working Visa scheme proposed then hopefully someone will listen and realise before it becomes a major problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The employers could tweak it by paying £30k pa, probably find more Scots willing to do the backbreaking stuff if that tweak was ever to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baxter Parp Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The employers could tweak it by paying £30k pa, probably find more Scots willing to do the backbreaking stuff if that tweak was ever to happen.So farmers should be paying £5000 over the average wage for their fruit pickers? Never had you down as a radical socialist, I must say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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