Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 We're no longer talking about forecasts though, are we ? In the last (almost) 4 years the UK economy has shrunk, inward investment has stalled and GDP is down, while the number of hate crimes have more than doubled. These are not pie in the sky forecasts, these are facts. Things that have happened, and are still happening. Experts. Pffft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: We're no longer talking about forecasts though, are we ? In the last (almost) 4 years the UK economy has shrunk, inward investment has stalled and GDP is down, while the number of hate crimes have more than doubled. These are not pie in the sky forecasts, these are facts. Things that have happened, and are still happening. Experts. Pffft. Don't remember this slump in the last 4 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 The reason for the good economic news of low unemployment is a direct effect of low investment in plant and machinery, and the big drop in productivity. Hire more people on part time or zero hours contracts to compensate. Keeping going by paying crap wages until there are no costs left to cut, then move to an EU location and invest in brand new high productivity facilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: See @YassinMoutaouakil's signature Posting so anyone interested can see* for themselves. *UNLESS THEY HAVE A RARE EYE CONDITION 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Don't remember this slump in the last 4 years. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it isn't there. According to one study, the referendum result had pushed up UK inflation by 1.7 percentage points in 2017, leading to an annual cost of £404 for the average British household.[7] Studies published in 2018 estimated that the economic costs of the Brexit vote were 2% of GDP,[8][9][10] or 2.5% of GDP.[11] According to a December 2017 Financial Times analysis, the Brexit referendum results had reduced national British income by 0.6% and 1.3%.[12] A 2018 analysis by Stanford University and Nottingham University economists estimated that uncertainty around Brexit reduced investment by businesses by approximately 6 percentage points and caused an employment reduction by 1.5 percentage points.[13] A number of studies found that Brexit-induced uncertainty about the UK's future trade policy reduced British international trade from June 2016 onwards.[14][15][16][17][18] A 2019 analysis found that British firms substantially increased offshoring to the European Union after the Brexit referendum, whereas European firms reduced new investments in the UK.[19][20] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it isn't there. According to one study, the referendum result had pushed up UK inflation by 1.7 percentage points in 2017, leading to an annual cost of £404 for the average British household.[7] Studies published in 2018 estimated that the economic costs of the Brexit vote were 2% of GDP,[8][9][10] or 2.5% of GDP.[11] According to a December 2017 Financial Times analysis, the Brexit referendum results had reduced national British income by 0.6% and 1.3%.[12] A 2018 analysis by Stanford University and Nottingham University economists estimated that uncertainty around Brexit reduced investment by businesses by approximately 6 percentage points and caused an employment reduction by 1.5 percentage points.[13] A number of studies found that Brexit-induced uncertainty about the UK's future trade policy reduced British international trade from June 2016 onwards.[14][15][16][17][18] A 2019 analysis found that British firms substantially increased offshoring to the European Union after the Brexit referendum, whereas European firms reduced new investments in the UK.[19][20] Stopped reading experts shit after the 2.5% of GDP piece was produced, think that would have taken GDP to 4.2 and 4. 4% increases in consecutive years, never heard a credible guesstimate near those figures for those years, I just concern myself with my own shit now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: We're no longer talking about forecasts though, are we ? In the last (almost) 4 years the UK economy has shrunk, inward investment has stalled and GDP is down, while the number of hate crimes have more than doubled. These are not pie in the sky forecasts, these are facts. Things that have happened, and are still happening. Experts. Pffft. Inward investment has gone down (as it also did a decade ago). But it hasn’t “stalled”, has it? Don’t twist stats, Bob. Pffft. Edited March 4, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: We're no longer talking about forecasts though, are we ? In the last (almost) 4 years the UK economy has shrunk, inward investment has stalled and GDP is down, while the number of hate crimes have more than doubled. These are not pie in the sky forecasts, these are facts. Things that have happened, and are still happening. Experts. Pffft. Maybe you meant that the rate of GDP growth has slowed. But GDP isn’t down, is it? Don’t twist stats, Bob. Pffft. Edited March 4, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said: We're no longer talking about forecasts though, are we ? In the last (almost) 4 years the UK economy has shrunk, inward investment has stalled and GDP is down, while the number of hate crimes have more than doubled. These are not pie in the sky forecasts, these are facts. Things that have happened, and are still happening. Experts. Pffft. In the last 4 years the number of hate crimes has gone up 50%. But, sadly, it is a trend that pre-dates Brexit, as they also increased 50% in the 4 prior years. Don’t twist stats, Bob. Pffft. Edited March 4, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Inward investment has gone down (as it also did a decade ago). But it hasn’t “stalled”, has it? Don’t twist stats, Bob. Pffft. Oh goody, Brexit's only like the financial crash that brought us ten years of austerity! Nothing to worry about.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: Oh goody, Brexit's only like the financial crash that brought us ten years of austerity! Nothing to worry about.. Fair point - but “stalled”? Do you think it was a straight line progression up to 2007-8? Edited March 4, 2020 by Pet Jeden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Was in the chemist yesterday getting some medicines. They had a sign up saying that due to Brexit they can’t get certain medicines, can’t get the liquid/tablet forms of others, can get certain brands full stop.. Asking customers not to abuse them over it and that they’re doing their best. It was one of the few nailed on certainties of Brexit though and clearly outlined by health professionals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Toon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, L'immortale Par said: Was in the chemist yesterday getting some medicines. They had a sign up saying that due to Brexit they can’t get certain medicines, can’t get the liquid/tablet forms of others, can get certain brands full stop.. Asking customers not to abuse them over it and that they’re doing their best. It was one of the few nailed on certainties of Brexit though and clearly outlined by health professionals. No shortages due to Brexit according to this - https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brexit-buffer-of-medicines-mean-uk-is-well-prepare/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Blue-Toon said: No shortages due to Brexit according to this - https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brexit-buffer-of-medicines-mean-uk-is-well-prepare/ This is High Valleyfield. The locals love their exotic drugs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-cost/britains-government-spent-4-4-billion-pounds-on-brexit-planning-idUKKBN20T007?utm_source=reddit.com Britain's government spent 4.4 billion pounds on Brexit planning Money to fucking burn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Imagine the furore if they hadn't prepared for leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Imagine the furore if they hadn't prepared for leaving. Yeah it could have ended up in chaos! Oh, wait.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hopefully they run out of blood pressure medication and the Gammons die off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 EU draft treaty demands level playing field for state subsidies and ECoJ be the final arbiter in legal disputes. That’s not going to go down well with the rabid Tory mob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: To be frank if there is to be an advantage of Brexit it would be in state aid freedom so I can't see that line surviving negotiations. I suppose it comes down to whether the economy does better in a high barrier & state aid freedom future or a low barrier & restricted state aid future. The economy as it effects the country as a whole might do better under the former with a progressive government in control but not with the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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