DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Special sitting of Parliament a week Saturday, supposedly to consider Johnson's proposal. The proposal that no one has yet seen.The opposition need to get their alternative sorted out though as well - I think the only way to avoid will be a government of national unity - I just don't think it could be one led by Corbyn. Just cannot see the Lib Dems, TIG, or independent Tories gong along with a Corbyn led interim government. That might not be fair but it is political reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The opposition need to get their alternative sorted out though as well - I think the only way to avoid will be a government of national unity - I just don't think it could be one led by Corbyn. Just cannot see the Lib Dems, TIG, or independent Tories gong along with a Corbyn led interim government. That might not be fair but it is political reality. The majority of Labour MPs will not support one led by anyone else. LibDems and TIGs are a small tail who think they have the right to wag the dog. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 The majority of Labour MPs will not support one led by anyone else. LibDems and TIGs are a small tail who think they have the right to wag the dog. Numbers are so tight that they matter though - it's why the DUP have been so instrumental in propping up the Tories.It was suggested that Labour MPs could support one of their own senior backbenchers such as Margaret Beckett.I genuinely think we are heading for No Deal by default despite the Benn Law - I have a nagging feeling that the Boris the Liar has some new wheeze to avoid it.I'm also at that point of f**k them - No Deal will mean IndyRef2 has to be pushed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Interesting that the latest court judgement was not dismissed but instead delayed.Means there does not need to be a fresh petition.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49975066 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 The majority of Labour MPs will not support one led by anyone else. LibDems and TIGs are a small tail who think they have the right to wag the dog. Why are we even mentioning the TIGs, utter irrelevance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Granny Danger said: The majority of Labour MPs will not support one led by anyone else. LibDems and TIGs are a small tail who think they have the right to wag the dog. I wonder where they got that idea from... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Damien Green claiming that Johnson has given him a categorical assurance that ‘No Deal’ will not be the Tory’s manifesto position at the forthcoming GE. No 10 refusing to confirm this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Damien Green claiming that Johnson has given him a categorical assurance that ‘No Deal’ will not be the Tory’s manifesto position at the forthcoming GE. No 10 refusing to confirm this. Damian Green isn't the sharpest tool in the box. Boris has probably told him it won't be the preferred option in the manifesto. Or it won't be the manifesto position - because the country will have already left with no deal on 31st Oct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Johnson will already have told Baker and the ERG the opposite. He’ll say anything to please the people in front of him and go back on it later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: Go back and read again. His point was daft. It was that terrorists will somehow get busier smuggling - apparently because there would be some new tariff paperwork posts somewhere 10 miles from the border. As if terrorists do things in a compliant law-abiding manner (It’s good that you stick up for your online mate though). Jesus christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: What’s your point? That big food processing businesses would like minimum paperwork and checks? Shockeroony. They also would like no taxes and no labour protection laws. They can’t have it. Try asking the workers that manned Grimsby’s 400 trawlers (now 5) how good the EU has been for them. This post can only have been made by someone who didn't read the link or deliberately misunderstood it or is a fucking moron. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Baxter Parp said: Jesus christ. At least you've tried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Jesus christ. Blasphemous, illiterate or just plain ignorant? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Jo [emoji173]️ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: This post can only have been made by someone who didn't read the link or deliberately misunderstood it or is a fucking moron. Ahhh. Baxter,Baxter,Baxter - Laddie. Go and read the article again, before coming back at me with yet another tantrum. And - this is the important bit - read it with a questioning mind, like grown ups do. Always consider - sometimes people and organisations are objective and astute and tell the truth. But sometimes they have an axe to grind. For instance, the Youngs Seafoods and their owners that you are so eager to believe because they back up your Brexit pant-wetting - well, according to the Socialist Party, they also don't think they can afford to pay the Living Wage. You buy that too? https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/29425/06-08-2019/hull-karro-food-meat-processors-strike-against-poverty-pay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The so called ‘negotiations’ have been a farce for a long time and only the EU have been honest about their position. To breach their red lines on the CU would be the beginning of the project unravelling and they were never going to allow that. The pain of No Deal will be felt in the EU27 but they will take the pain to protect their integrity. This was the position when negotiations started after Article 50 was invoked and it was never going to change. There are many U.K. politicians who recognise this but others who still appear to be oblivious to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Cerberus said: Jo ️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Word is that the meeting between Varadkar and Johnson on Merseyside was getting out of hand! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Bit disappointed this was reported in The Grauniad but with a bit of luck it'll make it to the Mail for major "gammon" outrage... Quote German ambassador reassures Irish border residents over Brexit Deike Potzel reaffirms Germany’s commitment to preserving peace in Ireland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Strong and sustained polling confirm that Remain would win in a further Referendum. Biggest group to change their minds are under 50 Labour voters but the demographic changes alone would swing things. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-myths-busting-polling-second-referendum-leave-remain-a9149491.html%3famp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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