Paco Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 .Labour are still sitting on the fucking fence in case they offend their racist voters in the North of England. In what way would Labour explicitly coming out to support Remain help? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Paco said: In what way would Labour explicitly coming out to support Remain help? It might help them form a Government although, as we know, Corbyn is in all likelihood a brexiteer. Albeit for anti business "up the workers" ones. If it's a hard no deal brexit the next election is definitely one you'd be looking to chuck as whoever "wins" will oversea an absolute economic and social wasteland that will taint them for twenty years or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Grimsby! Even the remainiest remainy remainer would acknowledge that if there is just one town in the whole UK that would benefit from Brexit - it’s fkn Grimsby.Nope.https://www-grimsbytelegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/brexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984.amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15706049469318&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fgrimsby-news%2Fbrexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984It's amazing how one who knows so little can post with such confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Nope.https://www-grimsbytelegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/brexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984.amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15706049469318&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fgrimsby-news%2Fbrexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984It's amazing how one who knows so little can post with such confidence. Indeed, wasn't Grimsby one of the very first areas to start wailing for special treatment and different rules for them once the full stupidity of the situation became apparent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Avoiding tariffs, brainbox. Go back and read again. His point was daft. It was that terrorists will somehow get busier smuggling - apparently because there would be some new tariff paperwork posts somewhere 10 miles from the border. As if terrorists do things in a compliant law-abiding manner (It’s good that you stick up for your online mate though). -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Go back and read again. His point was daft. It was that terrorists will somehow get busier smuggling - apparently because there would be some new tariff paperwork posts somewhere 10 miles from the border. As if terrorists do things in a compliant law-abiding manner [emoji23] (It’s good that you stick up for your online mate though).If it becomes demonstrably harder to get ANYTHING into the country, with higher likliehood of checks being carried out, then it stands to reason that those smuggling illicit goods will increases their prices accordingly. Ubless you are suggesting that despite customs checks where there previously werent any, doesnt affect the difficulty of smuggling illicit goods.Is that what you are suggesting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Nope. https://www-grimsbytelegraph-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/brexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984.amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15706049469318&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fgrimsby-news%2Fbrexit-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984 It's amazing how one who knows so little can post with such confidence. What’s your point? That big food processing businesses would like minimum paperwork and checks? Shockeroony. They also would like no taxes and no labour protection laws. They can’t have it. Try asking the workers that manned Grimsby’s 400 trawlers (now 5) how good the EU has been for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: If it becomes demonstrably harder to get ANYTHING into the country, with higher likliehood of checks being carried out, then it stands to reason that those smuggling illicit goods will increases their prices accordingly. Ubless you are suggesting that despite customs checks where there previously werent any, doesnt affect the difficulty of smuggling illicit goods. Is that what you are suggesting? The constraints - such as they are - on what terrorist organisations deal in, are the constraints on what arrives at UK and Irish ports. Not what passes between NI and ROI - because there have been no checks there for decades. Actually, your last point probably has a lot of truth in it. For example, at the port of Southampton a mere 1.3% of arrivals from the rest of the world are physically checked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: 400 trawlers wasn't sustainable. That's a fair point - to a degree. But has the number of say, Spanish trawlers also declined by 8 million% or whatever? The size of the decline is partly due to proper management and partly due to impacts of larger (unsustainable ) vessels. But very much due to the UK (and Scottish!) fishing industry being thrown under the bus of the Common Fisheries Policy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It might help them form a Government although, as we know, Corbyn is in all likelihood a brexiteer. Albeit for anti business "up the workers" ones. If it's a hard no deal brexit the next election is definitely one you'd be looking to chuck as whoever "wins" will oversea an absolute economic and social wasteland that will taint them for twenty years or more. It would help them form a government for how long? A month at most? So they’d now be fighting an election as a party of Remain, jostling with the Lib Dems who have sewn up the rabid Remain vote in England and the SNP who are going to dominate Scotland regardless of Corbyn’s Brexit stance. On the Leave side? The Tories who have no reason to pretend they’re anything other than ‘let’s get this done, deal or No Deal’ and maybe, but maybe not, a marginalised Brexit Party. There’s no definitive right or wrong answer to Labour’s Brexit problems, the truth is we simply don’t know what’ll turn out best, but alienating some of their MPs and a large chunk of the electorate (circa half) doesn’t seem like the best way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Lol at someone defending the demise of trawlers, an absolute ecological disaster as a downside of EU membership. f**k the brexit voting fishermen. Trawlers are an absolute abhorrent method of fishing. Mon the sharks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: UK has the 2nd biggest fleet in the EU, so not sure what bus they're being thrown under. Spain's fleet now is substantially smaller now than it was a decade ago. But 2/3 of fish caught in UK waters are by EU vessels. Stats eh? How substantially smaller? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: If there's no all Ireland customs union the hardcore Republicans and Loyalists will be far too busy smuggling even more than they are at the minute to get involved in your terrorist malarkey. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: UK has the 2nd biggest fleet in the EU, so not sure what bus they're being thrown under. Spain's fleet now is substantially smaller now than it was a decade ago. Another unfortunate fact is that the bulk of fish sold in Britain, cod and haddock, are mainly caught outside UK waters, and the fish and sea food caught in UK waters, mostly bound for Europe, will get hit by post Brexit tariffs and delays. https://www.ft.com/content/4ffe9624-2951-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Nobody tell pat who sold the eu boats there permits to fish in uk waters ffs it will blow his mind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Or who negotiated on behalf of the UK fishermen, when setting up the CFP.Nobody tell pat who sold the eu boats there permits to fish in uk waters ffs it will blow his mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Special sitting of Parliament a week Saturday, supposedly to consider Johnson's proposal. The proposal that no one has yet seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 If there's no all Ireland customs union the hardcore Republicans and Loyalists will be far too busy smuggling to get involved in your terrorist malarkey. Syrians will be wading across the Tweed from day dot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just found out from a TV report that if the High Court grant’s the “nob off” request it cannot be appealed to the U.K. Supreme Court! In the event of such a ruling potential for massive little Englander Gammon heads gone is massive. It would be glorious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I am looking forward to having a langoustine supper tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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