Granny Danger Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 27 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Corbyn's suggested he will have Labour vote to block Brexit unless it retains access to the single market. Seems fair and I can't see why the PLP wouldn't back him. It is a principled, sensible, logical and potentially electorally popular position. What possible reasons would the PLP have for not supporting it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: It is a principled, sensible, logical and potentially electorally popular position. What possible reasons would the PLP have for not supporting it? Nobody can promise a single market before negotiations are concluded. The EU starting point will be no single market without freedom of movement, abiding by EU rules and contributing to its budget. So basically the same as now but without a seat at the table. If she goes into negotiations committed to a single market she's fucked and will have no leverage to threaten the likes of German car makers who export a lot to Britain. Edited November 6, 2016 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Just now, welshbairn said: Nobody can promise a single market before negotiations are concluded. The EU starting point will be no single market without freedom of movement. If she goes into negotiations committed to a single market she's fucked and will have no leverage to threaten the likes of German car makers who export a lot to Britain. You've got that arse to elbow. I totally agree that there will be no single market without freedom of movement. The liars from Leave and within the present Government should be honest about that fact. Continuing to suggest that there can be access to the single market, or something close to it, without freedom of movement is deceitful and such deceit cannot and should not be an option for Theresa May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I imagine she'll come up with a list of wooly, non binding aspirations and it will pass the vote with a load of abstentions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 4 hours ago, dogmc said: You said the judges were wrong. What's your basis for that in legal terms? @McSpreader 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 ^^^^^ It could be this. http://www.vernoncoleman.com/euillegally.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 3 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: You are a twat. Look at the recent headlines in the daily mail or express. That's a 'britnat'. Of course JK Rowling as said nothing Half her Twitter feed is criticism of the right wing press's reaction to the court case... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Half her Twitter feed is criticism of the right wing press's reaction to the court case... The other half? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm not going to argue whether it's practical to argue for single market access just in terms of a position to adopt it allows Corbyn to ally with the SNP, bring the PLP on board whose Remain campaign focussed on the business benefits of the EU and it'll cause the Tories to hopefully publicly acknowledge whether they think sacrificing single market access is worth it to curb immigration. It's a good tactic I reckon which means he'll probs renege on it and Labour will balloon another open goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, mjw said: The other half? The other half are her own posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 The other half? It's about some kind of school for wizards. To be honest it all sounds very unlikely and I'm not sure I believe her 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, mjw said: The other half? Promoting her new film. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Wasn't leaving the single market derided as a "scare story put about by Remainers" by most Brexiters until Gove stated it's what he wanted? Now it appears the Brexiters think they wanted to leave the single market all along. Absolute shambles of a state, governed by a team of morons. Good to know we're all in it together though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Tom Watson says Labour will support announcing Article 50, but hasn't talked to Corbyn today. http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-06/labour-u-turn-on-brexit-vote-as-watson-says-the-party-will-support-may-in-brexit-vote/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Poo said: They won't back him. Even if they agree with him. I still get the impression that the Labour party won't play ball when it comes to Corbyn. Some MP's will scheme against him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) So according to the Daily Heil we should just allow our glorious leader to make all the decisions and just shut up. But there is a map of "Britain" in the paper tomorrow so it's all right! Edited November 6, 2016 by EdgarusQPFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 BBC news has an article on May and various businesspeople jetting off to India to strike up trade deals. Switch channels and there is an interview with Indias trade minister saying the British had wanted to meet in December but they had asked them to come early " to get it over with " Said he couldn't see much prospect of any deals as he couldn't see what would be in it for India Aye! We're open for business? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 BBC news has an article on May and various businesspeople jetting off to India to strike up trade deals. Switch channels and there is an interview with Indias trade minister saying the British had wanted to meet in December but they had asked them to come early " to get it over with " Said he couldn't see much prospect of any deals as he couldn't see what would be in it for India Aye! We're open for business? It will depend how much "aid" we promise them, same as always. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 We could ask for our textiles industry back if it hadn't moved to Bangladesh. Maybe call centres. Or get them to buy some steel....maybe not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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