ICTJohnboy Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: He looks like the sort of guy who will unashamedly let a fart rip during cabinet. Is he a mate of Nigel's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, SweeperDee said: So, who’s Steve Barclay? I think May's using the pretendy job for tinder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintax Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: I can see May surviving all this tbh She may well survive the inevitable leadership challenge, but she's still not getting this deal through the houses of parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Chief tea-maker and biscuit fetcher.Read that as biscuit felcher, but probably also works for Tories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Aye, apparently May will take over the direct negotiations when they need a politician, she can still say she appointed a leaver to the job.That doesn’t address their need for a politician though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, jupe1407 said: 3 hours ago, SweeperDee said: So, who’s Steve Barclay? Didn't he win the X Factor a few years back? This is now the prize for winning 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 She may well survive the inevitable leadership challenge, but she's still not getting this deal through the houses of parliament.Which means either no deal Brexit, a general election, or no Brexit at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Steve's a man's man. He looks like the sort of guy who will unashamedly let a fart rip during cabinet. Wid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 What do you reckon would be worse for the United Kingdom? Brexit and three types of vegetables, or no Brexit and gammon revolt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: What do you reckon would be worse for the United Kingdom? Brexit and three types of vegetables, or no Brexit and gammon revolt? Bring on the thick bacon slices. I'll be hiding under my duvet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 If Labour back May this will isolate the Gammons, they will be right out the picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: What do you reckon would be worse for the United Kingdom? Brexit and three types of vegetables, or no Brexit and gammon revolt? What would a Gammon revolt look like, multiple heart attacks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 So five cabinet members are going to meet over the weekend and try to persuade May to change the deal. This is five members who supported the deal, had a chance to resign and didn’t do so. They’re going to ask for changes to a draft agreement that the EU has already said won’t be changed. In particular they’re going to ask for changes to the backstop, the most contentious of issues, that will fundamentally change the nature of the backstop. They must know that they have zero chance of that getting changed. What do they do once they’re unsuccessful? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So five cabinet members are going to meet over the weekend and try to persuade May to change the deal. This is five members who supported the deal, had a chance to resign and didn’t do so. They’re going to ask for changes to a draft agreement that the EU has already said won’t be changed. In particular they’re going to ask for changes to the backstop, the most contentious of issues, that will fundamentally change the nature of the backstop. They must know that they have zero chance of that getting changed. What do they do once they’re unsuccessful? "We tried our best." "We must all now get behind this deal." "It would be counter productive to resign." "We will bide our time before stabbing Theresa in the back." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: "We tried our best." "We must all now get behind this deal." "It would be counter productive to resign." "We will bide our time before stabbing Theresa in the back." I don’t see it. If you’re a Remainer it’s a really shit deal, and if you’re a Leaver it is an even worse one. The idea that this deal is “taking back control” in any way, shape or form is beyond laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t see it. If you’re a Remainer it’s a really shit deal, and if you’re a Leaver it is an even worse one. The idea that this deal is “taking back control” in any way, shape or form is beyond laughable. I was being facetious, Granny... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t see it. If you’re a Remainer it’s a really shit deal, and if you’re a Leaver it is an even worse one. The idea that this deal is “taking back control” in any way, shape or form is beyond laughable. From an NI perspective it's a very good deal economically (in the short term, maybe in the longer term, too) Business organisations and the Ulster Farmers Union have been very supportive of this deal. Also it gives the fishing industry here - such as it is - encouragement. However, in the long term it's a bad deal constituitonally - it separates us from GB and can only lead to greater separation in the years to come, and having to adhere to EU rules and regulations with no input, although I'm not sure how much influence our MEPs wielded in Brussels/Strasbourg. On the other hand NI voted "Remain". On the third hand it was a UK wide vote. What to do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 From an NI perspective it's a very good deal economically (in the short term, maybe in the longer term, too) Business organisations and the Ulster Farmers Union have been very supportive of this deal. Also it gives the fishing industry here - such as it is - encouragement. However, in the long term it's a bad deal constituitonally - it separates us from GB and can only lead to greater separation in the years to come, and having to adhere to EU rules and regulations with no input, although I'm not sure how much influence our MEPs wielded in Brussels/Strasbourg. On the other hand NI voted "Remain". On the third hand it was a UK wide vote. What to do?It's a great deal for NI m8. Business is very supportive of this, unfortunately the DUP don't care about the economy and are more concerned with some battle that happened several hundred years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, John Lambies Doos said: 23 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: From an NI perspective it's a very good deal economically (in the short term, maybe in the longer term, too) Business organisations and the Ulster Farmers Union have been very supportive of this deal. Also it gives the fishing industry here - such as it is - encouragement. However, in the long term it's a bad deal constituitonally - it separates us from GB and can only lead to greater separation in the years to come, and having to adhere to EU rules and regulations with no input, although I'm not sure how much influence our MEPs wielded in Brussels/Strasbourg. On the other hand NI voted "Remain". On the third hand it was a UK wide vote. What to do? It's a great deal for NI m8. Business is very supportive of this, unfortunately the DUP don't care about the economy and are more concerned with some battle that happened several hundred years ago. You don't half post some shite... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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