Zetterlund Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Conventional US global politics has gone out the window. If Xi Jinping pretends that Trump wins a Korean deal then the South China Sea will be owned by China. He probably doesn't have much of a say in it anyway tbh. His trusty generals will keep him right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Where is this "Trump solved Korea" narrative coming from? If fat halfwits firing out illiterate tweets are worthy of Nobel Prizes, then allow me to claim full fucking credit next time Hearts actually win a game. It’s coming from Trump, and his echo chamber which couldn’t find the Korean Peninsula on a map. Just to help: 1. Kim’s nuclear testing site is, according to many reports, barely usable at this point due to instability. 2. North Korea is almost certainly suffering another famine. That’s the only reason Kim throws himself into the front line - to make up for serious internal failures. A summit and high profile good will tends to help these issues, as well as protect the family legacy. 3. Absolutely everything that’s happened over the last week or two allows Kim to govern in the region without pesky American influence. North Korea is the clear winner here. 4. Kim has given up nothing. America has gained nothing. Watch Trump spin it into something it manifestly isn’t. North Korea has laughed off Trump’s rhetoric and can now negotiate locally and legitimately ignore any irrational American demands. Should North Korea wish to restart its nuclear development, it can now do so with the US in no position to do anything about it. 5. In short, and not unsurprisingly, Kim just schooled Trumpy boy in international diplomacy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Schooled by a millennial no less. Some boy Kim. Juche forever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Waterford Whisper News kens what's up. Is Korean Peace Worth It If Trump Gets To Take Credit? http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/04/27/is-korean-peace-worth-it-if-trump-gets-to-take-credit/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Maybe get the peace part sorted before arranging a victory parade.It's not as if they haven't been down this road before and ended up back at square one . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Maybe get the peace part sorted before arranging a victory parade.It's not as if they haven't been down this road before and ended up back at square one . The last time Trump was awarding himself praise for being in office during good news happening was the Dow Jones hitting a new high 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) The Russians have got to President Moon, chaps http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-deserves-nobel-peace-prize-for-north-korea-work-sks-moon-2018-4 South Korea's president calls for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on North Korea Edited April 30, 2018 by banana 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 John Bolton told Fox that the Libya model of disarmament would be appropriate for North Korea. Doubt that would be reassuring for Kim given what they did to Gaddafi after he kept his side of the bargain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Wonder what will happen if Trump throws away US involvement in the Iran deal and the EU, China and Russia convince Iran to keep it going? If America punishes EU firms and banks for keeping to the treaty US banks could seriously lose out in retribution, they have very favourable access to EU markets . Hope the EU stand tall but it could totally reconfigure international relations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize would be good banter tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize would be good banter tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Wonder what will happen if Trump throws away US involvement in the Iran deal and the EU, China and Russia convince Iran to keep it going? If America punishes EU firms and banks for keeping to the treaty US banks could seriously lose out in retribution, they have very favourable access to EU markets . Hope the EU stand tall but it could totally reconfigure international relations. Trump said yesterday that the EU was set up to rip America off so he's clearly not seeing the benefits. In a sane world the other parties to the Iran deal would tell him he's on his own and they will play no part in any hostilities. Sadly there are signs of the likes of Macron & Merkel falling into line and talking of 'fixing' it, despite the relevant authorities consistently being of the view that Iran is fulfilling its commitments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Zetterlund said: Trump said yesterday that the EU was set up to rip America off so he's clearly not seeing the benefits. In a sane world the other parties to the Iran deal would tell him he's on his own and they will play no part in any hostilities. Sadly there are signs of the likes of Macron & Merkel falling into line and talking of 'fixing' it, despite the relevant authorities consistently being of the view that Iran is fulfilling its commitments. They're trying to convince Trump not to bail with some alternative strategies, my guess is they'll stick with the agreement along with Iran, China and Russia if he bails, which will make for some interesting days ahead. If Trump tries to take on the EU and China on this as well as trade his hardcore support are going to be hit hard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Bibi has thrown out some old news to impress Don with some old school theatricals. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/04/30/netanyahu-playing-to-trumps-abject-ignorance-and-it-might-work/?utm_term=.5ec37c3e5664 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 18:21, NotThePars said: Schooled by a millennial no less. Some boy Kim. Juche forever. Yep, two years ago a crazed tin-pot dictator ruling over a bankrupt pariah state. Now playing the global statesman as leader of a nuclear power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 49 questions seems a lot for a guy who hasn't done anything and won't be found guilty of anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Why is Trump still doing "campaign" rallies when the election ended 539 days ago*? *We all know why but it's really peculiar behaviour. ETA: As Trump loves big numbers he has now (un)officially passed the 3,000 mark in making false or misleading claims. Happy days.https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.6eff844feb76 Edited May 1, 2018 by RiG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Yep, two years ago a crazed tin-pot dictator ruling over a bankrupt pariah state. Now playing the global statesman as leader of a nuclear power. Perception is everything. Big shouts to Kim for joining Iran and Russia in the list of second rate powers that have absolutely owned the US in the 21st century. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) A Nobel Prize and now certain reelection if he gets this through. Stunning 6- maybe 7-D chess in progress. Edited May 1, 2018 by banana 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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