Cowden Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 No one really needs your permission or approval to express themselves as they wish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burnsythebinman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 CLUB STATEMENT: Colts Teams in League Two Posted on 23rd January 2018 by Aimee Walker Last weekend there was a lot of press regarding the issue of Colts teams joining League Two. The Club’s were made aware of this as part of ‘Project Brave’ announcement on the 25th January 2017. Three weeks ago a representative of Celtic F.C contacted the Chairman with the pilot proposal and requested initial feedback. The Chairman asked if he could go public with the document but was asked to refrain from doing so until further notice. He was extremely disappointed it had been made public by other parties before it was released exclusively by the Club. The document is an initial proposal that requires further discussion. Once the Club has received all formal details it will call a meeting for comments from supporters prior to making a decision regarding this proposal. To view the proposal click here If you have any comments you wish to make on the matter at this moment, please send them to elgincityfc@btconnect.com or in writing to The Chairman, Elgin City Football Club, Borough Briggs, Elgin, IV30 1AP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagansheroes Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) I just want to see the back of Regan and Doncaster . What Sevco want Sevco get with this pair of corrupt rogues. Edited January 26, 2018 by fagansheroes Forgot to enter additional opinion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said: I must say it’s a strange thread on which to play the role of pedantic contrarian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsythebinman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Rangers and Celtic have made a proposal to the Scottish FA board to host Scotland international matches and cup finals. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42824301 So they want to dominate the top league they want their named colt teams playing in the lower leagues they are going to be 2 of 8 teams with so called elite academies they want all cup finals to go to their stadiums - at what rent? they want all scotland matches at their stadiums - at what rent? Who still thinks this is all "for the good of scottish football"? its them trying to dominate scottish football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Stenhousemuir statement seems quite appropriate and sensible - it also clearly sets out what is happening and the Old Firm and SPFL's involvement which again is pretty straightforward. The problem with this debate that it is to a fair degree skewed by hatred for the Old Firm, SPFL, SFA, Messrs Doncaster and Regan such that a mob rule feel starts to pervade rather than just being a sensible debate. It is up to the clubs to discuss any proposals put to them from whatever source and form a view. They need to consider both what is best for their club and also Scottish football - the latter aspect because that is also in the club's interest and also because as members of the SPFL and SFA they are duty bound to act in the best interests of those organisations. Fans of course are fully entitled to give their club's feedback which influences the club's views/decision along with any other relevant factors. For me personally on that test is it good for my club - no, does it benefit the SPFL, no, does it benefit the SFA (Scotland national team), possibly but we don't know According to that statement there is a working group within the SPFL looking at this which completely undermines your position regarding the lack of involvement by the SPFL or your "why would the SPFL comment" post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The Morton SLO has basically sent back an email saying largely the same thing as most clubs are saying which suits me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Stenhousemuir statement seems quite appropriate and sensible - it also clearly sets out what is happening and the Old Firm and SPFL's involvement which again is pretty straightforward. The problem with this debate that it is to a fair degree skewed by hatred for the Old Firm, SPFL, SFA, Messrs Doncaster and Regan such that a mob rule feel starts to pervade rather than just being a sensible debate. It is up to the clubs to discuss any proposals put to them from whatever source and form a view. They need to consider both what is best for their club and also Scottish football - the latter aspect because that is also in the club's interest and also because as members of the SPFL and SFA they are duty bound to act in the best interests of those organisations. Fans of course are fully entitled to give their club's feedback which influences the club's views/decision along with any other relevant factors. For me personally on that test is it good for my club - no, does it benefit the SPFL, no, does it benefit the SFA (Scotland national team), possibly but we don't know Sensible debate and too much vitriol. It's a fucking half arsed proposal for which the positives outlined are completely laughable. f**k you, f**k the fence sitters, f**k those thinking that this would be worth any money they could offer and f**k the Old Firm. That vitriolic enough for you? 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, strichener said: According to that statement there is a working group within the SPFL looking at this which completely undermines your position regarding the lack of involvement by the SPFL or your "why would the SPFL comment" post. There is a working group within the SPFL looking at this doesn’t undermine me at all - again sensible and normal - there are working groups in SPFL looking at lots of things at any given time. And then when a working group has some findings the SPFL takes the next steps which may include making some public comment or not as may be appropriate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Sensible debate and too much vitriol. It's a fucking half arsed proposal for which the positives outlined are completely laughable. f**k you, f**k the fence sitters, f**k those thinking that this would be worth any money they could offer and f**k the Old Firm. That vitriolic enough for you? No but means I would take no cognisance of your views at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Cowden Cowboy said: No but means I would take no cognisance of your views at all Oooh cognisance Do you care to outline exactly what needs to be confirmed about this proposal in order for the Cowdenbeath board to make a decision on whether they support it? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The problem with this debate that it is to a fair degree skewed by hatred for the Old Firm, SPFL, SFA, Messrs Doncaster and Regan such that a mob rule feel starts to pervade rather than just being a sensible debate. The problem with the proposal is that Old Firm, SPFL, SFA, Messrs Doncaster and Regan and anyone else who supports this are showing contempt for League two, its clubs and League two clubs supporters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Oooh cognisance Do you care to outline exactly what needs to be confirmed about this proposal in order for the Cowdenbeath board to make a decision on whether they support it? Cowdenbeath won’t be around when this comes into effect anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Oooh cognisance Do you care to outline exactly what needs to be confirmed about this proposal in order for the Cowdenbeath board to make a decision on whether they support it? They have already advised their view and replied to the proposal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsythebinman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: They have already advised their view and replied to the proposal is that a view on the current proposal? could you let us know what they said. sorry if I missed it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: They have already advised their view and replied to the proposal Care to publicise that view? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, The Moonster said: Care to publicise that view? Now you can see how vitriol rebounds against you when you want something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galabankie Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The SFA have a responsibility to all teams/members, likewise the SPFL have a responsibility to all 42 teams – the harsh reality is that the impact of the introduction of Colts teams will see the demise of certain clubs if the bribe is accepted, the bigger picture and end game becomes much closer. It starts with the two clubs introduced in the pilot who will be redistributing monies received from the SFA through the performance awards and elite academy grants. After the pilot the remainder of the premiership clubs will be introduced into the Leagues which will be undertaking a reconstruction at the same time - distribution monies, number of teams in each tier, introduction of ‘B’ teams, regionalisation, automatic relegation from L2, the potential introduction of a differently formatted European League replacing the Champions League/Europa Cup along the lines of what is happening with National Team. The Saturday leagues will no longer be the bread and butter for the top Premiership teams – the midweek European Leagues will bring home the bacon and then there will be no limit to where the ‘B’ team will play note the term ‘B’ team (this is different from Colts) – this might seem far- fetched to some, to others not. When the SPL and SPFL merged clubs were warned as to what would happen if they didn’t vote it through, the same fear and bullying tactics will be applied again, as recent as last season two L2 board rooms reported that they had been informed by the Chief Executive that the Colts proposal would be imposed on the clubs if they didn’t vote for it. Next Steps - Neil Doncaster will be inviting the chairmen of the dissenting Clubs for a 1 to 1 dinner! FOOTNOTE - Anyone that believes Doncaster & Regan are not involved and supporting this need to book themselves back in to the funny-farm. Last season Elgin City were told that if the L2 clubs didn't accept the proposals the changes would be imposed upon them, I believe the same point was put to at least one other L2 club Chairman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, Cowden Cowboy said: Now you can see how vitriol rebounds against you when you want something Yeah, you sure showed me! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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