Savage Henry Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Had little time for lions, but know with hogg gone and Seymour/Laidlaw not near the test team; how can anyone in Scotland now support Gatlands farce Quite easily. Not having any Scottish players doesn't detract from what the Lions is. I can think of three or four England players who have been overlooked for Gatland's Welsh frenzy. I don't like the coach, doesn't affect that I like the team. I don't like Gordon Strachan and I think he picks the wrong players. I don't stop supporting Scotland. I guess it would have been Maitland as a replacement, but he's injured as well. Halfpenny it is, then. I still think WP Nel will end up on the tour at some point, though not probably at full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 That's exactly what I said isn't it? There are plenty of players who have been treated poorly here, not just the Scots. Not quite.. but if you don't think that the Scots have been singled out far more than any nation I'm afraid you are deluded. 2nd equal in six nations... beating Ireland, hammering Wales and 0illing Italy. Who the fuk gets nilled in six nations....I accept your opinion but I hope they get annihilated. Least hogg won't be the scapegoat now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Quite easily. Not having any Scottish players doesn't detract from what the Lions is. I can think of three or four England players who have been overlooked for Gatland's Welsh frenzy. I don't like the coach, doesn't affect that I like the team. I don't like Gordon Strachan and I think he picks the wrong players. I don't stop supporting Scotland. I guess it would have been Maitland as a replacement, but he's injured as well. Halfpenny it is, then. I still think WP Nel will end up on the tour at some point, though not probably at full back. Taylor might be an outside bet after Saturday, given he can cover 13 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'd much rather our players stayed with toony. Far more to be gained getting used to his systems than learning Warren ball and being annihilated by nz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, dogmc said: I'd much rather our players stayed with toony. Far more to be gained getting used to his systems than learning Warren ball and being annihilated by nz. From a Scotland point of view yes, but from the players' point of view, I'd have no problem with them become Lions. It's still the highest honour there is, even if some of the selections are questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 From a Scotland point of view yes, but from the players' point of view, I'd have no problem with them become Lions. It's still the highest honour there is, even if some of the selections are questionable. Yeah I get the honour thing but Ryan grant has never recovered from the last lions tour and Ritchie n hoggs form dropped for a while too. Gatland is a dinosaur of a coach and purely from a developmental perspective I'd rather our guys weren't exposed to him. They won't gain anything from getting tanked off nz. The lions needs a massive overhaul. The bile being spewed out on social media shows how divisive it has become. It's virtually unrecognisable from 97 (quite possibly because most guys then had only just gone from amateur to pros). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, dogmc said: Yeah I get the honour thing but Ryan grant has never recovered from the last lions tour and Ritchie n hoggs form dropped for a while too. Gatland is a dinosaur of a coach and purely from a developmental perspective I'd rather our guys weren't exposed to him. They won't gain anything from getting tanked off nz. The lions needs a massive overhaul. The bile being spewed out on social media shows how divisive it has become. It's virtually unrecognisable from 97 (quite possibly because most guys then had only just gone from amateur to pros). TBH it doesn't need that much of a change. Just a coach who puts the Lions ethos ahead of his own ego. Someone like Toonie would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 YEEEEEEEEEEEEES TOMMY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Try for Seymour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 TBH it doesn't need that much of a change. Just a coach who puts the Lions ethos ahead of his own ego. Someone like Toonie would be ideal. Yep though he was never gonna get the gig at this stage of his career I think he would be ideal in the future. Open minded progressive and an excellent communicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Great try from Seymour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Well done Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, dogmc said: Yep though he was never gonna get the gig at this stage of his career I think he would be ideal in the future. Open minded progressive and an excellent communicator Imagine JLD if Toonie didn't pick a full squad of Scots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Vern Cotter would have been a perfect choice, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Vern Cotter would have been a perfect choice, I reckon. Not on basis of what he did with barbarians Eta vern has a terrible record v the big 3 sh teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Another good try, but some awful decision making before it. Anyone complaining about the lack of Scottish influence should realise they are using our old blueprint for red-zone attack - keep the ball and don't score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Imagine JLD if Toonie didn't pick a full squad of Scots [emoji185] It's sa in 4 years....given how young our squad is not how toony wants them to play I'd expect a coach wanting to run the sa pack around would definitely pick plenty of Scots who are just hitting their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I was thinking that toony could be in the running for next Lions tour if thing go well. Will be interesting to see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I was thinking that toony could be in the running for next Lions tour if thing go well. Will be interesting to see what happens Can't off hand think of more exciting nh coach tbh. Great man mgr too eg handling hogg being a dick few years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Imagine JLD if Toonie didn't pick a full squad of Scots [emoji185] OK.. think you are missing my pointAll these Welsh players were a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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