Buddie-Boy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, paisleysaints said: any rumours on any more backroom staff lined up in Jan surely not! what role? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buddie-Boy said: surely not! what role? No mate it was tongue in cheek but I'm sure we can find something for someone lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie-Boy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, paisleysaints said: No mate it was tongue in cheek but I'm sure we can find something for someone lol thank goodness for that - aye, no doubt there'll be an assistant to the assistant somebody being lined up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 21 year old Brad Lyons formerly Coleraine midfielder now with Blackburn Rover will join Saints on loan in January 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 21 year old Brad Lyons formerly Coleraine midfielder now with Blackburn Rover will join Saints on loan in January Other than Dummett, Concalves, Charlie Adam and to a lesser extent, Conor Newton and Paul MCGowan, I cannot remember any loanees who have done well with Saints. There have been dozens who did not work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, CambieBud said: Other than Dummett, Concalves, Charlie Adam and to a lesser extent, Conor Newton and Paul MCGowan, I cannot remember any loanees who have done well with Saints. There have been dozens who did not work out. At least Oran has managed this lad so he knows him inside out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, CambieBud said: Other than Dummett, Concalves, Charlie Adam and to a lesser extent, Conor Newton and Paul MCGowan, I cannot remember any loanees who have done well with Saints. There have been dozens who did not work out. Yeah, it's definitely easier to find duds than gems in our loans. I think I'd file Scott Cuthbert and Graeme Carey under 'qualified successes', too, along with Cammy Smith for his part in the Great Escape. Also Harry Davis, even though he only played about six games, he helped turn things around. That's not me trying to undermine your point - I reckon we have about a 10% hit rate with loan signings. Edited December 20, 2018 by Coventry Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I don't think loan signings have a higher or lower success rate that permanent signings. Some work out, some don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, houston_bud said: I don't think loan signings have a higher or lower success rate that permanent signings. Some work out, some don't. Probably fair. Especially over the past few years. Despite winning the league, our signing record has been fairly abysmal. Ross signed a huge number of duds as well. That's clearly the reason behind the restructuring of support staff - bringing in Gus for continuity, more experienced assistants and coaches, etc. January will be an excellent early litmus test to see how it's going. I'm going to steer well clear if BAWA if we have a rubbish January, mind Edited December 21, 2018 by Coventry Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 What are we looking at then, 12 players out 5 players in, realistically? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Oh and send Edwards back to Hearts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: What are we looking at then, 12 players out 5 players in, realistically? I think those numbers seem to be about right. It's pretty easy to form a list of 10 players that we wouldn't miss for a single second, plus a couple of others that seem to be not performing/out of favour. I believe that'd leave us with a squad of 23. It might even just be four in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I think those numbers seem to be about right. It's pretty easy to form a list of 10 players that we wouldn't miss for a single second, plus a couple of others that seem to be not performing/out of favour. I believe that'd leave us with a squad of 23. It might even just be four in.Yep, agreed. It will cost us to shift a lot of these dead beats. If we can sign 4-5 players to the same standard of Hammill we'll be laughing. Sadly the January transfer window is a minefield. Jack Ross was either very lucky or god like a couple of years ago.Wonder if we'll at least put the question into Celtic about Lewis Morgan. Don't think he'll want to join though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: What are we looking at then, 12 players out 5 players in, realistically? Oran has said a squad of 22 would be ideal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Yep, agreed. It will cost us to shift a lot of these dead beats. If we can sign 4-5 players to the same standard of Hammill we'll be laughing. Sadly the January transfer window is a minefield. Jack Ross was either very lucky or god like a couple of years ago. Wonder if we'll at least put the question into Celtic about Lewis Morgan. Don't think he'll want to join though. Absolutely no chance Morgan is coming on loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I’d break our wage structure for hamill or incentive him with “survival” bonus or something - as there is very little chance we will replace him with anything close to his ability.Unfortunately though I dare say league 1 / lower championship teams will be monitoring his situation and blow us out the water wage wise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Willock away back to Man Utd. Only surprise is he's gone now rather than the end of the month considering we have three games in a week. Wonder how many minutes past midnight on January 1 the announcement will go up that Kpwekea and King have been binned. Too much to hope Edwards and Hodson go too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Stu said: Willock away back to Man Utd. Only surprise is he's gone now rather than the end of the month considering we have three games in a week. Wonder how many minutes past midnight on January 1 the announcement will go up that Kpwekea and King have been binned. Too much to hope Edwards and Hodson go too? I think there's a fair chance all the loan players may go back, for the simple reason they are easy to get rid of. None of them impressed enough to think we should keep them. While Jones has improved, he still regularly makes mistakes that often cost us goals, Edwards only gets a game because there's no-one else while Hodson looks better at right back but only on a par with McGinn. Rodgers has been very disappointing, so it wouldn't surprise me if Lyness gets the next three games, if he does well gets kept on as backup and we sign a more experienced keeper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Stu said: Willock away back to Man Utd. Only surprise is he's gone now rather than the end of the month considering we have three games in a week. Wonder how many minutes past midnight on January 1 the announcement will go up that Kpwekea and King have been binned. Too much to hope Edwards and Hodson go too? Agreed, Also given how many injuries we've sustained in the last few weeks. OK is in a tight spot now. He's got to risk playing guys he wants rid of knowing that an injury will tie them here right through January. Is Kyle McAllister fit? I'd like to see us try and bring him back up the road for the second half of the season. I also expect we will at least ask the question about Morgan but so will other, far better sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I really liked Willock at St Johnstone and was envious when you lot snapped him up. What happened here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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