houston_bud Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Torfason said: Reading the striker partnership thread is just depressing Yard's and Basher were great but in 40 years supporting us, I can't remember a great top level partnership. Even Yardley and Lavety only had a season together. And we played with a front 3 that year. We've had some decent strikers over the years (Thompson, Higdon, Sutton all come to mind) but I can't remember many 'partnerships'. Sutton and Kean for a season? Dargo and Mehmet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Maybe McAvennie & Gallagher? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 hours ago, Torfason said: Reading the striker partnership thread is just depressing Yard's and Basher were great but in 40 years supporting us, I can't remember a great top level partnership. No team plays that way anymore, days of 2 out and out strikers playing as a partnership are gone for now but it's a fashion thing and cyclical so will come back into vogue at some stage. For now it's one behind or off the striker or a central striker with two wide forwards coming inside from wide and often inverting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 14 hours ago, Black_and_White_Stripes said: A bit glaikit of me, perhaps, but I have no idea what your logic is for this? Obvs at the weekend I was most focussed on the cricket and the chaos that Bazball is wreaking on the current England side so I only checked Saints scores at H/T & F/T before reading the match report. What I meant by saying I wasn't disheartened by the result is that we were competitive, probably the better team, and would've been the more likely team to win if we'd scored the pen. Outside of the OF games (and not all of them) the only game we haven't been competitive is the 4-0 away to Dundee. Edited February 19 by btb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 hours ago, Durnford said: Don't remember St Mirren ever really being like that until a couple of years back when away supporters weren't allowed to leave to ground until about 10 minutes after the game finished in case of incidents outside of the ground. Don't think I've seen any trouble there though - mind you although I'm in my late 60's now my two son's are each built like the proverbial brick sh#thouses. Its a weird one; seems only yesterday I was the one looking after them. They were going to have a go at me and a mate. There was a faint club badge on my hoodie which one of them seen that made them move on they were looking for Motherwell fans. Police arrived in time before they got to the Motherwell fans. I'm capable of looking after myself trained with paisley police boxing club in my young days . But a bunch of young ones I'm past that. Football made huge strides from the dark days of violence would hate to see it returning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 This is brilliant. Such a down to earth guy. Good to see wee Danny again and there are a couple of zingers from Neil Lennon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 47 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: This is brilliant. Such a down to earth guy. Good to see wee Danny again and there are a couple of zingers from Neil Lennon. Yeah I watched that a couple of weeks ago and thought that Neil Lennon (who I don’t normally like) came across really well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 59 minutes ago, ZingaliMan said: They were going to have a go at me and a mate. There was a faint club badge on my hoodie which one of them seen that made them move on they were looking for Motherwell fans. Police arrived in time before they got to the Motherwell fans. I'm capable of looking after myself trained with paisley police boxing club in my young days . But a bunch of young ones I'm past that. Football made huge strides from the dark days of violence would hate to see it returning. The 'ultras' have made a difference to the atmosphere and it's definitely better for it. But if the trade off is that means we need to endure wee fannies looking to cause bother, then I'd rather see it all binned. It seems to be creeping into a lot of clubs now, whilst it's not exactly the Shadwell Army, it's still not nice for folk to get caught up in it. Especially if you're trying to take kids, or there's older folk there. The clubs probably need to put their heads together and come up with something to try and nip it in the bud, I think it's difficult for individual teams to tackle it alone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellthepaw Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 30 minutes ago, houston_bud said: The 'ultras' have made a difference to the atmosphere and it's definitely better for it. But if the trade off is that means we need to endure wee fannies looking to cause bother, then I'd rather see it all binned. It seems to be creeping into a lot of clubs now, whilst it's not exactly the Shadwell Army, it's still not nice for folk to get caught up in it. Especially if you're trying to take kids, or there's older folk there. The clubs probably need to put their heads together and come up with something to try and nip it in the bud, I think it's difficult for individual teams to tackle it alone. It seemed to be ( i could be wrong) the Northbank boys who formed 7/8 years ago, set out to bring colour, visuals and atmosphere back to the club. As that part of the support gained a larger army of followers over the last few years, a minority casual culture seems to have connected its self to it, outwith NB1877s hands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, smellthepaw said: It seemed to be ( i could be wrong) the Northbank boys who formed 7/8 years ago, set out to bring colour, visuals and atmosphere back to the club. As that part of the support gained a larger army of followers over the last few years, a minority casual culture seems to have connected its self to it, outwith NB1877s hands. Yeah, I think you're right. I'm not pointing any fingers. There's a domino effect to this sort of thing, as soon as one or two clubs have some folk wanting to be seen as hard men, then it will follow at other clubs too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, houston_bud said: Yeah, I think you're right. I'm not pointing any fingers. There's a domino effect to this sort of thing, as soon as one or two clubs have some folk wanting to be seen as hard men, then it will follow at other clubs too. Agree , their a lot of good work done by W7 it's a minority of gang culture minded fools who spoil it for the majority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry the lion Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) they were behaving disgracefully at the Livi North train station, utter thugs. We were genuinely scared for our daughter who was getting off coming from Edinburgh, coupled with their behaviour after the game to some fans including a disabled Livi fan, I think its safe to say you have a problem. One that needs addressing immediately before it gets further out of hand. Its a reflection on you, your club and community, so I'd say step in and sort it out through whatever means possible... Edited February 19 by larry the lion 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 22 hours ago, houston_bud said: Even Yardley and Lavety only had a season together. And we played with a front 3 that year. We've had some decent strikers over the years (Thompson, Higdon, Sutton all come to mind) but I can't remember many 'partnerships'. Sutton and Kean for a season? Dargo and Mehmet? Martin Cameron for half a season was superb. We haven't been blessed with great goalscorers recently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, AW saint said: Martin Cameron for half a season was superb. We haven't been blessed with great goalscorers recently. I think Cameron scored three in a 4-4 draw at Love Street when we had been 0-3 down at H-T. Against Falkirk IIRC ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: I think Cameron scored three in a 4-4 draw at Love Street when we had been 0-3 down at H-T. Against Falkirk IIRC ?? Lee Miller scored a hat trick for us that day too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 13 hours ago, larry the lion said: they were behaving disgracefully at the Livi North train station, utter thugs. We were genuinely scared for our daughter who was getting off coming from Edinburgh, coupled with their behaviour after the game to some fans including a disabled Livi fan, I think its safe to say you have a problem. One that needs addressing immediately before it gets further out of hand. Its a reflection on you, your club and community, so I'd say step in and sort it out through whatever means possible... The club should be handing out bans to anyone involved in any violence or physical abuse. Hopefully that would act as a deterrent. There's a bigger problem than St Mirren though - and I don't say that to play down what happened or absolve anyone of responsibility. There's an increase in violence in schools, so there's definitely a societal issue. It's difficult to know exactly what's causing it; rise in poverty/hangover from the pandemic/social media? Groups of teenagers, probably with a bevvy (possibly more) in them, always has the potential for aggro, couple that with seeing endless videos online of other wee dicks causing trouble at games around the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Bring back National Service! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 minutes ago, btb said: Bring back National Service! Now that I'm too old for it, I completely agree! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 56 minutes ago, houston_bud said: Groups of teenagers, probably with a bevvy (possibly more) in them, always has the potential for aggro, couple that with seeing endless videos online of other wee dicks causing trouble at games around the country. This has been going on for over half a century though , even before vids and internet. 50 years ago I saw the aftermath of an attack on Airdrie supporters buses at LS , they had beaten us 6-0 and every window on every bus was smashed in. It's nothing new and, let's face it , it's a countrywide problem which is unlikely to ever be solved ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskysteed Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, houston_bud said: The club should be handing out bans to anyone involved in any violence or physical abuse. Hopefully that would act as a deterrent. There's a bigger problem than St Mirren though - and I don't say that to play down what happened or absolve anyone of responsibility. There's an increase in violence in schools, so there's definitely a societal issue. It's difficult to know exactly what's causing it; rise in poverty/hangover from the pandemic/social media? Groups of teenagers, probably with a bevvy (possibly more) in them, always has the potential for aggro, couple that with seeing endless videos online of other wee dicks causing trouble at games around the country. I agree entirely. All the club can do is ban anyone causing aggro from the stadium, after that it’s up to the police and wider society. I did notice at the Dundee game where quite a few jumped over the wall to get to the Dundee fans, that they were allowed to just jump back over and carry on as if nothing happened. It’s this sort of behaviour being allowed to go unpunished inside the stadium that gives them the feeling of being untouchable. At the very least, coming over the wall should see you ejected, even if it just for that game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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