FTOF Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 14 minutes ago, Hendo said: Next week will undoubtedly be a very tough game. Our record at Rugby Park is pretty dismal, can't remember the last time we won there. 2012/2013 Sat 18 May Kilmarnock 1 - 3 St. Mirren League - Google Search 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Apparently Michael O'Neill is in the frame for the sheep job. Not good news for us, if that's the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 With five weeks to go, another plug for my Manchester Marathon efforts to raise money for ACCORD. All donations greatly appreciated at https://www.justgiving.com/page/stuartisturning40 You can read a bit about why I'm doing it at www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/galloway-news-reporter-marking-milestone-32279216 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 23 minutes ago, FTOF said: Apparently Michael O'Neill is in the frame for the sheep job. Not good news for us, if that's the case. Why? A genuine question 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, AW saint said: Why? A genuine question Presumably because Robbo would then be in the frame for the Northern Ireland job. If that did come to pass, i'd hope we could negotiate a deal where he doesnt leave till the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, AW saint said: Why? A genuine question I assume he means because the NI job will be free 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Anyone think there’s any possibility Robbo wouldn’t take the NI job or do we think it would be nailed on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, Hendo said: Presumably because Robbo would then be in the frame for the Northern Ireland job. If that did come to pass, i'd hope we could negotiate a deal where he doesnt leave till the end of the season. Why would SR take the Irish job now? Europe with us or lots of losses with NI. That job will come around again, when it surely will be more attractive than it is right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Not sure it would appeal to Robbo right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 18 minutes ago, medals said: Why would SR take the Irish job now? Europe with us or lots of losses with NI. That job will come around again, when it surely will be more attractive than it is right now. He might not be as attractive to them the next time it comes around, that's got to be in his mind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, craigkillie said: He might not be as attractive to them the next time it comes around, that's got to be in his mind. He might not but the gamble right now is very unattractive. It is at least as likely as not that his chance(s) will come round again. We have a good core,no debt, fans who love what he's doing and a management team that is very supportive. This is why we are progressing. With European money we may well kick on further but who knows. He is on a good no. Right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 57 minutes ago, medals said: Why would SR take the Irish job now? Europe with us or lots of losses with NI. That job will come around again, when it surely will be more attractive than it is right now. Despite O’Neill being kinda shite first time round with Northern Ireland with a similar win ratio to what he has now he still landed a decent sized job with Stoke City after NI. It’s a high profile job that may well appeal to Robbo. He has proved his capability with Motherwell and St Mirren to take on clubs with far greater resources. Steve Clarke did something similar by leaving Kilmarnock after similar progress. ps: There is no guarantee we will be in Europe. And even if we are it could be over in a blink of an eye. Edited March 10 by Molotov 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I think there's more to it for us , if O'Neil get the Aberdeen job . Diarmuid is his assistant with NI , and he might be looking for him to join him up there too , which could see the initial break-up of our management set-up ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 44 minutes ago, medals said: It is at least as likely as not that his chance(s) will come round again. So will managing a club in the Scottish Premiership. International jobs seem pretty ropy to actually get. A good manager seems able to get at least 3 tournament qualifying campaigns so that could be 5-6 years, that might not be true but its kind of how it feels? For someone whos admitted he'd see being NI manager as a lifetime goal being checked off, I don't think he'd pass up on that opportunity as he'd regret it forever if he never got another chance. It would just take the next appointment to be right, and then the decision makers at NI deciding to go for a youth coach/foreign after that, and hes arguably got a 12+ year wait to be considered again. It would be shite but at least he'd be leaving a hero with you in a good place, which makes it likely he'd rejoin again later on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, FTOF said: Apparently Michael O'Neill is in the frame for the sheep job. Not good news for us, if that's the case. A rumour which seems to have stemmed from being at the St Mirren v Aberdeen game last week. Assume he was there though to see CBM and McMenamin. Yesterday, he was in Preston watching Ali McCann. Under contract with his country for another 4 years culminating in a home Euros. Would he chuck that for Aberdeen? Not so sure. Would be hefty compensation for the Dons too. Pretty sure though that Robinson will be the next Northern Ireland boss. Hopefully, it'll be in 2028. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) 32 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: So will managing a club in the Scottish Premiership. International jobs seem pretty ropy to actually get. A good manager seems able to get at least 3 tournament qualifying campaigns so that could be 5-6 years, that might not be true but its kind of how it feels? For someone whos admitted he'd see being NI manager as a lifetime goal being checked off, I don't think he'd pass up on that opportunity as he'd regret it forever if he never got another chance. It would just take the next appointment to be right, and then the decision makers at NI deciding to go for a youth coach/foreign after that, and hes arguably got a 12+ year wait to be considered again. It would be shite but at least he'd be leaving a hero with you in a good place, which makes it likely he'd rejoin again later on. The only saving grace really would be O'Neil being under contract for another four years with NI (could Aberdeen afford to buy out a 4 year deal for an international manager?) and the presence of Neil Lennon, who is higher profile in general management terms and has a higher level of success to his name than Robinson - you'd think he would most likely chuck his hat in the ring too. Edited March 10 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Molotov said: Despite O’Neill being kinda shite first time round with Northern Ireland with a similar win ratio to what he has now he still landed a decent sized job with Stoke City after NI. It’s a high profile job that may well appeal to Robbo. He has proved his capability with Motherwell and St Mirren to take on clubs with far greater resources. Steve Clarke did something similar by leaving Kilmarnock after similar progress. ps: There is no guarantee we will be in Europe. And even if we are it could be over in a blink of an eye. Kinda shite? He made the last 16 of the Euros 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: The only saving grace really would be O'Neil being under contract for another four years with NI (could Aberdeen afford to buy out a 4 year deal for an international manager?) and the presence of Neil Lennon, who is higher profile in general management terms and has a higher level of success to his name than Robinson - you'd think he would most likely chuck his hat in the ring too. Contracts often are negotiated by agents to allow both parties to walk away if it suits - often a 12-18 month “settlement”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Stu said: Kinda shite? He made the last 16 of the Euros Andy Roxburgh made the last 8 of the Euros in 1992. Your point is? That makes Andy twice the manager of O’Neill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Molotov said: Contracts often are negotiated by agents to allow both parties to walk away if it suits - often a 12-18 month “settlement”. He's was on a reported £800k a year when he left for Stoke in 2019. Meaning you'd imagine he'll be on at least the same again. Given he signed a 5 and a half year deal in 2022, it would need to be some settlement for O'Neill to feel £3m is worth walking away from and Aberdeen would need to be 100% certain they want him as their man. I can't see it. The money changing hands here is too big. If O'Neill was walking into the last year of a deal, Id get it but there's no way is anyone settling in advance on a contract like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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