Cheese Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Aye, I have my doubts about the WhatsApp message, but I think the gist of it may be similar. Lennon goes over the top again with his criticism of Kamberi, Dempster pulls him up about it, Lennon says something back, shambles ensues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-dee Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 im betting the truth is somewhere in the middle. lennon probably was pulled up for throwing a chair and then had a falling out with denpster at that meeting but doubt even he is stupid enough to call his boss a dyke! surely! likely the story has got arms and legs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: He’s 100% capable of going there, it’ll just take a bit more than a shite WhatsApp message as proof that he did to convince me. Yeah - it's merely a plausible account of what happened, in that it's consistent with the known facts as reported by the mainstream media (and the message came out very early too, which makes it a bit more credible). The truth could easily be something entirely different and it could just be someone's idea of mischief, or just chinese-whispers-on-steroids, but so far, this is the only specific account/rumour/theory of Lenny saying or doing something to Leeann that's serious enough to warrant an immediate suspension-pending-dismissal. Edited January 28, 2019 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: He’s 100% capable of going there, it’ll just take a bit more than a shite WhatsApp message as proof that he did to convince me. Oh I don't think it's necessarily what happened at all, just saying that it's not saying I'd rule out either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Heard Lennon tried to fight Camberri then went mental at Dempster calling her names and banging the wall.Probably bs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Surely if he called Dempster a dyke he would be gone straight away, not just suspended pending investigation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, ah-dee said: does anyone have this txt? On 26/01/2019 at 19:46, Dee Man said: Allegedly originally from Gauld. Personally I'm a bit sceptical: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nadroj said: Surely if he called Dempster a dyke he would be gone straight away, not just suspended pending investigation? An instant dismissal for gross misconduct is the very last thing you ever want to do, HR-wise. Get it wrong and you're due a ton of money in unfair dismissal claims. Short of someone endangering other people's safety or physically destroying your business, where getting the offending employee off the premises is more or less an emergency, it would be a lot smarter to handle it the way Hibs have done - suspension/gardening leave followed by getting all the facts straight and looking up all the employment law procedures, followed by a less extreme form of dismissal, like a settlement, or at least one where you have time to prepare for any possible consequences, if the sackee is still disgruntled. Edited January 28, 2019 by Aim Here 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Aim Here said: An instant dismissal for gross misconduct is the very last thing you ever want to do, HR-wise. Get it wrong and you're due a ton of money in unfair dismissal claims. Short of someone endangering other people's safety or physically destroying your business, where getting the offending employee off the premises is more or less an emergency, it would be a lot smarter to handle it the way Hibs have done - suspension/gardening leave followed by getting all the facts straight and looking up all the employment law procedures, followed by a less extreme form of dismissal, like a settlement, or at least one where you have time to prepare for any possible consequences, if the sackee is still disgruntled. Fair play, makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Northern Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Surely chucking a chair at some c@nt would get you the bullet? Like instantly. Obviously no idea if that's true but it's a cracking story . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-dee Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 How would Gauld be talking about what "apparently" happened at training. He'd have been there... This is complete baws imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Can't imagine Gauld being a wee grass 30 seconds in the door, but he does have that kind of face so mebbe The text seems to source from a Hibs insider who isn't a player (Gauld would surely have been present at the meeting where the bollocking occurred), and I suspect that the purported Gauld sourcing was just added on as part of the chinese whispers process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 What a load of shite The message isn’t ITK at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: What a load of shite The message isn’t ITK at all. The message came out very early after the news broke, though - it hit P&B less than 2 hours after the first stub articles hit the BBC, and the timestamp on the message screenshot itself is only about 40 minutes afterwards, when all the BBC frontpage said was 'Lenny will miss the St Mirren game'. It was early enough that it may have been being passed around before the details about there being two meetings, about losing the plot with Kamberi, or about him being completely finished at Hibs even hit the mainstream press, which would definitely mark it as coming from someone ITK. I certainly read about some parts of this before I read them on the BBC site or in the Herald. Edited January 28, 2019 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Anyone thinking that text is anything approaching real must be an absolute moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 26/01/2019 at 13:48, Crawford said: He doesn't use it as a direct excuse as much as a mitigation. He has so far used - anti-irish sentiment - hair colour - depression But no I don't think he has ever said "I threw a chair at him because I'm depressed". Mind you when people commit serious crime and try to use "diminished responsibility" they do the same. They don't say I did it because.... They say I did it but..... ^^^ boring fucker in the pub that everyone can't stand but thinks he's holding court 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Anyone thinking that text is anything approaching real must be an absolute moron.Correct, there's absolutely not a chance that Gauld has sent that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Heart of Northern said: Surely chucking a chair at some c@nt would get you the bullet? Like instantly. Depends who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Poet of the Macabre said: ^^^ boring fucker in the pub that everyone can't stand but thinks he's holding court ∆∆∆ Gobshite drunkard in the pub that's 2 days late but thinks he's intelligent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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