The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Cheers Aberdeen, probably get more than the 500k now if he does leave. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leith Green Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 bUt hE iS A dANdy hE;s NaE gOOd eNYway mIN Stupid silly Minterdeen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, CCB19035 said: Our place? We tried to buy your best player for 500K, says a great deal about what AFC think of Hibernian. Boyle clearly has no desire to play European football. Ooft, I can taste your salty tears from here. To be fair, he probably thinks that you will be pumped out of Europe within 10 days and maybe isnt that bothered going to a team who lost in one of the two competitions you can realistically win by <checks notes> Raith Rovers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: Ooft, I can taste your salty tears from here. To be fair, he probably thinks that you will be pumped out of Europe within 10 days and maybe isnt that bothered going to a team who lost in one of the two competitions you can realistically win by <checks notes> Raith Rovers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 the best non-Old Firm player in the league[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leith Green Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Apparently we are signing James Scott (ex Motherwell) today on season loan from Hull with option to buy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Bonus points to the boy replying to this with 'Source?' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Aim Here said: Bonus points to the boy replying to this with 'Source?' Is that not the guy that presents A View From The Terrace? @Francesc Fabregas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, johnnydun said: Is that not the guy that presents A View From The Terrace? @Francesc Fabregas Same cheesy grin, but several kilos lighter and a bit more skilful (I hope) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Happy enough with Scott but don't see him as a replacement for Doidge really. From what I remember he mainly played off the side for Motherwell but could play centre forward which makes him a handy guy to have. Hard to find someone with Doidge's predatory instinct in any case and if Nisbet/Boyle are sticking around and Magennis keeps fit and in good form we may not need a second 10 goals plus centre forward. Anyway 'well fans (paging @capt_oats) what should we be expecting with Scott? Will he be better than our previous Jimmy Scott? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 It not sure how much in the know Peter Martin is. If at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Happy enough with Scott but don't see him as a replacement for Doidge really. From what I remember he mainly played off the side for Motherwell but could play centre forward which makes him a handy guy to have. Hard to find someone with Doidge's predatory instinct in any case and if Nisbet/Boyle are sticking around and Magennis keeps fit and in good form we may not need a second 10 goals plus centre forward. Anyway 'well fans (paging @capt_oats) what should we be expecting with Scott? Will he be better than our previous Jimmy Scott? The caveat with Scott is that he's barely played in a year and a half so there's an obvious question mark there. Similarly he's still only 20 and it's difficult to say how he'll react to his experience at Hull. In a general sense though with us we tried him as a #9 in the post-split games on the 18/19 season when it was clear Main was away and we were to all intents and purposes safe. He found that pretty tough and he wasn't ready to play against Premiership CBs, which was fair enough he was only 18 and as Robinson put it he was still learning how to use his body. I genuinely don't know whether he sees himself as a #9 or a "wide forward". 19/20 season we largely used him off the wings and he fitted in well as an out ball. The dip in form we saw after we sold him should highlight the extent to which we missed him but weirdly I saw a few comments from Motherwell fans last night describing him as an "average" player...fucking idiots. Anyway, generally we'd put him on top of full backs and he had more than enough about him technically to play in that area (unlike Hastie). There's a tactical analysis of the 3-0 game against you lot on the Modern Fitba' site and it highlights Scott specifically. Quote "This is why I didn’t describe Motherwell’s attacking structure as ‘poor’ earlier on: Because while there was one time Polworth dropped deep into space to receive and got ignored by Hartley, this structure may well have been a deliberate ploy. Certainly the way in which they consistently played long diagonals out to James Scott on the right wing made it seem not an accident. And if it was deliberate, kudos to Robinson for exploiting a weakness in this Hibs side: namely a lack of physicality. Scott is 6ft 2in tall. His opposite man, Hibs left-back Lewis Stevenson, is 5ft 7in. To put it kindly, aerial duels between these two weren’t really a fair contest. Scott frequently brought the ball down himself to allow Motherwell to attack from inside the Hibs half, but even if he didn’t Stevenson struggled to properly clear his lines in these situations due to the physical disadvantage." Link That in effect is a good description of how we used him so the Hibs fans who I saw losing their minds about his lack of goals are kind of missing the point of the role he had in that team. As a package he has all the tools (IMO) and had a very high ceiling (which is presumably why Hull went for him). We got good money for him (£1m+) but as I say the knock on was that our form dipped as a result. In terms of potential he could easily be aiming for a far bigger club than Hibs, whether he realises that is on him really. He's tall, athletic, built and has good feet (and not just as in a "good feet for a big man" cliche), he's legitimately technically very good and has a gallus aspect to his game. The story at the time was that of the 3 who were going out of contract it was Scott and Turnbull who were our priorities to get tied down on long term deals because those were the two we saw as significant saleable assets, Hastie was less of a priority. His time at Hull was fucked. Hull were comfortably mid-table in the Championship when he signed, he picked up a long term injury literally in his first training session, they sold Jarrod Bowen, the 'rona shutdown happened, by the time the re-start happened IIRC some Hull players declined to play because...contracts, they ended up relegated. He scored on his first start for them but he seemed to struggle to get into the team while they were in League 1 and I don't think his career with them has ever really recovered from that. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on as he hasn't played a lot of football and was by no means the finished article when we sold him. It could go either way tbh. Edited August 21, 2021 by capt_oats 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Drew Brees said: It not sure how much in the know Peter Martin is. If at all. Would be a horrific deal for us unless we got £4m+. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Drew Brees said: It not sure how much in the know Peter Martin is. If at all. Even taking away the elements that make me have no desire to see Griffiths anywhere near the club anymore it'd have to be a lot of money on top of a 31 year old with no resale value, questionable fitness and attitude on presumably a lot of money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Drew Brees said: It not sure how much in the know Peter Martin is. If at all. I’ll assume we need to pay extra for them to take Griffiths 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: The caveat with Scott is that he's barely played in a year and a half so there's an obvious question mark there. Similarly he's still only 20 and it's difficult to say how he'll react to his experience at Hull. In a general sense though with us we tried him as a #9 in the post-split games on the 18/19 season when it was clear Main was away and we were to all intents and purposes safe. He found that pretty tough and he wasn't ready to play against Premiership CBs, which was fair enough he was only 18 and as Robinson put it he was still learning how to use his body. I genuinely don't know whether he sees himself as a #9 or a "wide forward". 19/20 season we largely used him off the wings and he fitted in well as an out ball. The dip in form we saw after we sold him should highlight the extent to which we missed him but weirdly I saw a few comments from Motherwell fans last night describing him as an "average" player...fucking idiots. Anyway, generally we'd put him on top of full backs and he had more than enough about him technically to play in that area (unlike Hastie). There's a tactical analysis of the 3-0 game against you lot on the Modern Fitba' site and it highlights Scott specifically. That in effect is a good description of how we used him so the Hibs fans who I saw losing their minds about his lack of goals are kind of missing the point of the role he had in that team. As a package he has all the tools (IMO) and had a very high ceiling (which is presumably why Hull went for him). We got good money for him (£1m+) but as I say the knock on was that our form dipped as a result. In terms of potential he could easily be aiming for a far bigger club than Hibs, whether he realises that is on him really. He's tall, athletic, built and has good feet (and not just as in a "good feet for a big man" cliche), he's legitimately technically very good and has a gallus aspect to his game. The story at the time was that of the 3 who were going out of contract it was Scott and Turnbull who were our priorities to get tied down on long term deals because those were the two we saw as significant saleable assets, Hastie was less of a priority. His time at Hull was fucked. Hull were comfortably mid-table in the Championship when he signed, he picked up a long term injury literally in his first training session, they sold Jarrod Bowen, the 'rona shutdown happened, by the time the re-start happened IIRC some Hull players declined to play because...contracts, they ended up relegated. He scored on his first start for them but he seemed to struggle to get into the team while they were in League 1 and I don't think his career with them has ever really recovered from that. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on as he hasn't played a lot of football and was by no means the finished article when we sold him. It could go either way tbh. Ta very much! That was pretty much my perception of seeing him at you but didn't have any idea how he'd done in Hull Sounds great in that case, pretty good on the wings, can do a job up front and has the attributes that if he can avoid further injuries and keep developing could be a brilliant player at this level. Although can't see anywhere that we do have an option to buy him as someone said earlier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Ta very much! That was pretty much my perception of seeing him at you but didn't have any idea how he'd done in Hull Sounds great in that case, pretty good on the wings, can do a job up front and has the attributes that if he can avoid further injuries and keep developing could be a brilliant player at this level. Although can't see anywhere that we do have an option to buy him as someone said earlier The option to buy would be a weird one, which isn't to say it doesn't exist, but given what Hull paid for him and he's still got a year on his deal after this it's hard to imagine they'd be fine with just writing him off at say, the sort of money you paid Rangers for Murphy. A good season up here with Hibs and you'd think they either have a player they can bring back into their squad or one that they'd be able to recoup the bulk of that £1m+ they spent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Drew Brees said: It not sure how much in the know Peter Martin is. If at all. None of that is much of a surprise, Martin has been fed this by a Celtic source, I imagine. I would prefer Celtic to pay what Nisbet is worth without pretending that LG currently has any makeweight value in the deal. Which wont happen Cue "Hibs star held to ransom" story Plus ca change plus ca meme chose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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