O_Kahn Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 The logical follow-up by Hibs is now to reward well-behaving away supports with a larger allocation, those who spend their time being morose, rather than malevolent. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 In an ideal Scottish Football world where petty self interest wasn't the norm, all other non-OF clubs would come out today and echo what Hibs have done as it's not really enough for one club to stick their head above the parapet. St Mirren, Hearts and Motherwell have all lowered the OF away allocation in recent years (at a financial cost in Motherwell's case) but in linking it implicitly to the sort of sectarian shite that we're all subjected to whenever the forces of darkness visit, Hibs have gone a step further and really deserve to be supported in that. I think the experience at Hearts and Saints (and soon Hibs) will mirror ours - reducing OF allocation is overwhelmingly popular with the core support of the club and is taken as the club acting in their own supporters' best interests. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersand Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: My wife (not interested in fitba) asked me about the differences last night. What I told her is that Rangers are on a vastly different level - their behaviour, bigotry, songbook, and everything else has to be seen to be believed. I've had this exact conversation with my wife (also not interested in football). Rangers games undoubtedly bring out peak-arseholery in our support, but the bile from the other end at those games is just relentless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: I would say it's even more of an issue tbh. They are actively singing about a terrorist organisation, glorifying them blowing up innocent civilians. Is that not worse about chants about racist songs? Maybe because it was the 70s, 80s, 90s, it doesn't as significant right now but it's the lowest of the low scum. That and banners supporting terrorists in Israel too. Flags of Hamas and ETA in their support. They actively support terrorist organisations. Sad as f**k and no place in modern day society let alone Scottish football. Palestine and Basque Country flags are not Hamas and ETA flags. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: I would say it's even more of an issue tbh. They are actively singing about a terrorist organisation, glorifying them blowing up innocent civilians. Is that not worse about chants about racist songs? Maybe because it was the 70s, 80s, 90s, it doesn't as significant right now but it's the lowest of the low scum. That and banners supporting terrorists in Israel too. Flags of Hamas and ETA in their support. They actively support terrorist organisations. Sad as f**k and no place in modern day society let alone Scottish football. Eh, really? You'll have pics of actual Hamas and ETA 'flags' in the Celtic support? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Good of Hibs to bring up sectarianism in their criticism of the Rangers away support as well as acknowledging that their own fans have issues to address. More clubs should do it even it means taking a hit. Hearts can, though don't always, fill the section that away fans used to have. For me, I don't want to attend games with the Cheeks and certainly don't want to expose my kids to their toxic atmosphere. The bams in our own support also tend to crawl out for these games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye the Gnu Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Killie reduced OF tickets by half a few years ago and the overwhelming feedback from our support has been very positive. It had been clear for many years that many season ticket holders chose not to attend these games due to the vile atmosphere created by both sets of scummy fans, but now more are returning and the atmosphere within the ground has hugely improved. Great decision by Hibs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Swello said: In an ideal Scottish Football world where petty self interest wasn't the norm, all other non-OF clubs would come out today and echo what Hibs have done as it's not really enough for one club to stick their head above the parapet. St Mirren, Hearts and Motherwell have all lowered the OF away allocation in recent years (at a financial cost in Motherwell's case) but in linking it implicitly to the sort of sectarian shite that we're all subjected to whenever the forces of darkness visit, Hibs have gone a step further and really deserve to be supported in that. I think the experience at Hearts and Saints (and soon Hibs) will mirror ours - reducing OF allocation is overwhelmingly popular with the core support of the club and is taken as the club acting in their own supporters' best interests. In an ideal Scottish Football world the other clubs, nor Hibs in the first place, should need to be relied on to call out this behaviour anyway. This should be called out and dealt with by the governing bodies and the offending clubs punished accordingly. Well played Hibs for highlighting sectarianism as one of the reasons for taking this action. In a normal country this would trigger debate and action from the governing bodies, police, government and broadcasters but we know that wont happen. Look at the media response so far, no one coming out and saying Hibs are correct and that this has being going on for too long and needs to be addressed. Just completely ignored. Crazy to think that you can sit through 90 mins of religious based nonsense and not hear a peep but last night get an apology from the BBC that you may have heard Lawrence Shankland being called a w****r for 10 seconds. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 27 minutes ago, Hawkeye the Gnu said: Killie reduced OF tickets by half a few years ago and the overwhelming feedback from our support has been very positive. It had been clear for many years that many season ticket holders chose not to attend these games due to the vile atmosphere created by both sets of scummy fans, but now more are returning and the atmosphere within the ground has hugely improved. Great decision by Hibs. This is exactly what I was thinking. Good to hear it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Diamond For Me Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Leith Green said: The reduction in tickets has been a long time coming, I know that the two clubs have been spoken to "behind the scenes" and have just shrugged their collective shoulders. They cant complain now, they have had decades to deal with it. Exactly so. Well done Hibs, good to see clubs refusing to put up with this shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68542255 The Scottish FA has asked Hibernian to present its views on unacceptable fan behaviour to a committee that looks at rule changes within football. SFA should be ashamed of theirselves. This has been going on for decades. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundHoppingBear Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 What is the easier option for Hibs board: Actually having a better recruitment policy, hiring better managers and beating us on the park Or Cutting our allocation. It's an easy distraction for the board. -11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundHoppingBear Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: I would say it's even more of an issue tbh. They are actively singing about a terrorist organisation, glorifying them blowing up innocent civilians. Is that not worse about chants about racist songs? Maybe because it was the 70s, 80s, 90s, it doesn't as significant right now but it's the lowest of the low scum. That and banners supporting terrorists in Israel too. Flags of Hamas and ETA in their support. They actively support terrorist organisations. Sad as f**k and no place in modern day society let alone Scottish football. IRA sympathising has become acceptable in Scottish society. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, GroundHoppingBear said: What is the easier option for Hibs board: Actually having a better recruitment policy, hiring better managers and beating us on the park Or Cutting our allocation. It's an easy distraction for the board. Both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundHoppingBear Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Both. It's a squirrel from the board. Ours done the same with reducing Celtics allocation. Why put in the effort to improve the club when simpletons will applaud this like seals. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 37 minutes ago, GroundHoppingBear said: Actually having a better recruitment policy, hiring better managers and beating us on the park Why would that stop Rangers and Celtic fans being detestable bigot vermin? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, GroundHoppingBear said: It's a squirrel from the board. Ours done the same with reducing Celtics allocation. Why put in the effort to improve the club when simpletons will applaud this like seals. At least there will be fewer simpletons in the ground after this decision.................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 52 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68542255 The Scottish FA has asked Hibernian to present its views on unacceptable fan behaviour to a committee that looks at rule changes within football. SFA should be ashamed of theirselves. This has been going on for decades. Aye, this revelation must have come as a real surprise to them. They will try and bury this in a committee as per. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Any news on what they're cutting the Cheeks allocation down to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Mr. X said: Any news on what they're cutting the Cheeks allocation down to? Nope. It depends if we get top 6 or not and hence might be a moot point til next season - Celtic have played at ER twice already, so it is just potentially Rangers in the equation. Obviously most of us fans want them to get a number between zero and, say, 400 but lets see....................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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