gannonball Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: Oh sorry they only wave them after one has committed a terrorist attack. Silly me. You are being silly, Palestinian and Basque flags are flown just about all the time for a start. I'm no flegshagger for any flag but they have existed long before any organisation you have claimed is their flag. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Did Chris McLaughlin really just list the problems with fans but fail to mention sectarian chanting ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unleash The Nade Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Well done Hibs, however the SFA doing their usual pant wetting over this. It’s them who should be hammering the ugly sisters for the behaviour of their supporters. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Well done Hibs, this should only affect the bigot twins, anyone that has a problem with the allocation being cut to the gruesome twosome is quite happy to turn a blind eye to their sectarianism, hopefully leads to other clubs cutting the allocation to these c***s. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye the Gnu Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, tam the bud said: Wish the press would ask the Catholic players at Ibrox, why they would want to play for a team whose fans dislike their religion ? It’s that blue pound again isn’t it. That Israeli boy who left Septic at least voted with his feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 28 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: Oh sorry they only wave them after one has committed a terrorist attack. Silly me. f**k has any of it got to do with attending a football game in Scotland? ETA disbanded in 2018 and their last violence was in 2011. Basque Country flags, which - again - are not ETA flags anyway, have been displayed by Celtic fans since then. Therefore, not just to coincide with terrorist attacks. As for why those Celtic fans display them, I don't know. Maybe its some antifascist thing owing to the Guernica bombing or something. Solidarity with the Palestinians is a common position within socialist internationalism. There's a thread elsewhere on this site discussing that. Football matches see thousands of working class people congregating together. That provides a rare opportunity for political expression and organising among those folk. Think carefully before demanding it not take place. Food bank collections are now commonplace at matches. That is a political act. The rise of food banks in the first place was caused by government austerity policies. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTID26 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, GroundHoppingBear said: IRA sympathising has become acceptable in Scottish society. NO, this is not acceptable neither is gloryfying the killing of Irish catholics almost 400 years ago. The 2 (maybe 3) clubs who do not address this poison should suffer points deductions by the governing bodies. I will not be holding my breath on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy Murray Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, GroundHoppingBear said: IRA sympathising has become acceptable in Scottish society. Cretinous moron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I mean, it depends on what historical version of the IRA you're talking about... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, gannonball said: You are being silly, Palestinian and Basque flags are flown just about all the time for a start. I'm no flegshagger for any flag but they have existed long before any organisation you have claimed is their flag. Why are they being flown at a football game by scottish football supporters? Don't you think that's pretty fucking weird? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: Why are they being flown at a football game by scottish football supporters? Don't you think that's pretty fucking weird? I mean you're arguing a completely different point here now but given we are in a union almost actively supporting genocide at the moment, using public events to raise awareness/protest isn't weird for this I would say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: Why are they being flown at a football game by scottish football supporters? Don't you think that's pretty fucking weird? Spoiler I think the Palestine flags are pertinent. I agree on the Basque flags, though, its not obvious what point is being made by displaying them. To be clear on what my wider concern is and what I was trying to get at in my reply to you above, I'm worried that the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater here. I googled "Celtic fans Hamas flags" and similar after I read your comment from before. The search results were mostly Telegraph articles. Something I noticed in each one was that the columnist would complain about Palestine flags then also go on to complain about the "VAR decision...Douglas Ross is a c**t" banner. Given recent edicts from Sunak and chums clamping down on the right to protest in society generally, my fear is that the Palestine flags will be the thin end of the wedge regarding political expression by Scottish football spectators. We have our food bank collections and those are deemed acceptable so long as they're marked "charity" and kept strictly apolitical. The moment anyone makes the very obvious political link to why there's even a need for food banks, folk get squeamish. Douglas Ross is the Scottish head of the party who enacted the policies that led to the rise of food banks. I want this point to be made in stadiums, the link to be drawn, a banner to say he's a c**t. What he advocates is why we have the food bank collections at matches in the first place. Sure, this sort of stuff normally isn't relevant to the football but neither are all the advertising boards around the pitch telling us to buy car insurance. Came back and put this reply behind a spoiler because its too big a chunk of text and too off-topic for the thread. Edited March 12 by Freedom Farter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, FuzzyBear said: Did Chris McLaughlin really just list the problems with fans but fail to mention sectarian chanting ? It's the establishment circling the wagons. Hilarious stuff, they must think we are all fucking stupid, blind and deaf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 17 minutes ago, Leith Green said: It's the establishment circling the wagons. Hilarious stuff, they must think we are all fucking stupid, blind and deaf. Would like to see Hibs tell the bbc to f**k off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, Leith Green said: It's the establishment circling the wagons. Hilarious stuff, they must think we are all fucking stupid, blind and deaf. A quote that could apply equally to Scottish football and the situation in Gaza. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Loads of whataboutery going about on Twitter etc. There is a huge common denominator - You don't see much trouble unless certain clubs are involved. Thousands indulging in sectarianism etc every single week, no matter who they're playing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Would like to see Hibs tell the bbc to f**k off. And not just for this shite. Next time Sportsound is on, doubtless they will major on our fans behaviour at Tynecastle etc and gloss over the illegal songs from the ****. It's like Rangers in house radio station. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, FuzzyBear said: Did Chris McLaughlin really just list the problems with fans but fail to mention sectarian chanting ? He got banned from Ibrox for mentioning it before, he'll be more circumspect this time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Love to see this from Hibs. It really is a joy to watch ‘lesser’ clubs cut the OF’s allocation. Please stick with this decision this time. Every club should be doing this. As I vehemently argue on a regular basis in the SJFC thread, giving the OF more tickets is a great way of alienating your home supporters in favour of a few extra quid. They bring nothing but complete misery both on (for the most part) and off the park. Simply put: People don’t want to go to these games. The OF coming to town isn’t some big exciting event like some in the boardrooms seem to think, it’s a day to dread. Would love it if my club grew a set and reduced their allocation to one stand behind the goal. Sadly our board are short sighted fools and will likely give them 3 stands while a sizeable portion of oddballs within our fanbase will argue that Saints will die if we don’t do it. What do Hibs currently get at Ibrox, 900 seats? About 1.7% of capacity - which is ridiculous anyway. So give them 1.7% of ER (350 seats) and as others have said, punt them in the top corner of the top tier. Sell the rest of your stand to home fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) There does seem to be a particular issue with a club having a public falling out with their most politically active fans, banning them, allowing access again and having no issue issuing tickets in specific sections of away grounds to allow shit like this (only a month ago and not the first time). Standing in one section of seats en masse in their olive drab outfits. Just remove them from ballots/first dibs. When both the OF execs facilitate them at our grounds maybe not fair to rush straight to the authorities demanding action. It is no surprise that home attendances drop throughout the country when the uglies swing into town. Fans of pretty much every other club can visit each others grounds and generally not be arseholes. Of course every club has its share of fannies and exuberant teens but nowhere on OF scale. It's the not just the feeling of invulnerability, is the knowledge, that fills them full of swagger. Fair play to standing up, I think a few have done it in the past but wind taken out your sails when 5,000 show up at your ground, unleash their b/s for 2 hours but the cops and authorities bottle it. I get the cops can't wade in full riot gear but the SFA could nip this by imposing decent (not your usual 4 digit) fines or points deductions, if nothing more it would make the league more interesting and narrow the chasm to 3rd. But the club themselves need to stop selling away briefs to their biggest dicks. I'd suggest a bit like smoking bans and plastic bags, you got to use the stick method to change behaviour because there really is no carrot. Edited March 13 by Vietnam91 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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