vikingTON Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Rivalries have nothing to do with artificial municipal boundaries.[...]Higher up the food chain, Ayr-Killie, Morton-St Mirren and Accies-Motherwell are all traditional derbies in different local authorities. The fact that they’re still referred to as the Renfrewshire, Ayrshire and (a) Lanarkshire derby respectively entirely contradicts your ‘artificial boundaries don’t matter for a rivalry’ argument; not least given that Fauldhouse is itself in an entirely separate historical county to the rest of the likely WoS catchment (Ayrshire; Renfrewshire; Lanarkshire; Dunbartonshire; Argyll; Bute). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 You need opponents for that! Not quite sure how playing EoS is any less sustainable than Junior.Exactly my point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Who knew that fucking Bute was somehow treated as a standalone county until 1975 btw; all the more reason to give Rothesay Brandane a permanent spot in the Scottish Cup and the new West of Scotland Premier League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Because they have to go to tweedmouth. Which they may not Where we are geographically has always meant we are at the North or South of regions we are inTravelling has never been an issue. In fact we chose to stay in the South area this season as we had built a squad based mainly in Fife. This means almost double the mileage travelled per season than going back North. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Griffin said: Hypothetical as it may be you are the person who posted this. However you seem to want to allow flexibility where Luncarty are concerned. If 200 yards or so doesnt matter how far are you advocating this can be extended to? 1 mile? 2 miles? Or is it to be decided on a club by club arbritary basis?? You're not understanding the point. Luncarty covers both sides of the line, can you perhaps see why they would be an exception given the ground was built long before someone drew the line and the village is both north and south? an unusual situation and similar to Harthill. If both the village and the ground were firmly one side or the other, then they go to whatever league covers where their are, regardless of distance. Edited February 13, 2020 by Burnie_man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never been to scotland Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Any more EOS applicants? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 You're not understanding the point. Luncarty covers both side of the line, can you perhaps see why they would be an exception given the ground was built long before someone drew the line and the village is both north and south? an unusual situation and similar to Harthill. If both the village and the ground were firmly one side or the other, then they go to whatever league covers where their are, regardless of distance.I understand you point and I reiterate I have no issue with Luncarty.However if there is movement, no matter how small, for one team there then has to be consideration given to all teams. The fact is that Luncarty's ground sits North of the mythical line that means Dundee and Tayside teams are excluded from entering the Lowland League. If this is adjusted for 1 team it has to be applicable to all teams. It is black and white. I am sure the organisations involved will sort it out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never been to scotland Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Griffin said: I understand you point and I reiterate I have no issue with Luncarty. However if there is movement, no matter how small, for one team there then has to be consideration given to all teams. The fact is that Luncarty's ground sits North of the mythical line that means Dundee and Tayside teams are excluded from entering the Lowland League. If this is adjusted for 1 team it has to be applicable to all teams. It is black and white. I am sure the organisations involved will sort it out. It does not need to be applicable to all teams at all. Luncarty are surely an exception rather than the rule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Griffin said: I understand you point and I reiterate I have no issue with Luncarty. However if there is movement, no matter how small, for one team there then has to be consideration given to all teams. The fact is that Luncarty's ground sits North of the mythical line that means Dundee and Tayside teams are excluded from entering the Lowland League. If this is adjusted for 1 team it has to be applicable to all teams. It is black and white. I am sure the organisations involved will sort it out. They are an unusual case, therefore they can be treated as an exception The line cuts the village in half, and came long after they built the ground in the village. Can you not understand why this is different from clubs who are 1, 5 or 10 miles from the line? Either way, as you say, it's not upto us to decide thankfully, it's the leagues involved. Edited February 13, 2020 by Burnie_man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I genuinely worry for this guys mental health Must mean my paraphrase of Blackadder goes Forth a few pages ago as it mentions the word “suicide”, f**k me what a seething mess it clearly wasn’t a serious comment [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 You move the line for Luncarty. Fine. Then the Dundee clubs... okay. Now the wider Angus clubs. Now Brechin Vics and suddenly you have a LL that is all points south of Stonehaven. One LL covering that is nuts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never been to scotland Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: You move the line for Luncarty. Fine. Then the Dundee clubs... okay. Now the wider Angus clubs. Now Brechin Vics and suddenly you have a LL that is all points south of Stonehaven. One LL covering that is nuts. You really arent a fan of Luncarty are you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, never been to scotland said: You really arent a fan of Luncarty are you? I have got zero issue with Luncarty - the line was drawn by someone without considering where it went. I don't think the rest of Tayside should be LL / EoS though. The original language was north / south of the Tay to separate the Level 5 leagues. That fell by the wayside but might have simplified things somewhat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Certainly if the village /town is nearby, and on the other side of the line, they can choose which side they go to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: They are an unusual case, therefore they can be treated as an exception The line cuts the village in half, and came long after they built the ground in the village. Can you not understand why this is different from clubs who are 1, 5 or 10 miles from the line? Either way, as you say, it's not upto us to decide thankfully, it's the leagues involved. Am I right in thinking that Harthill is in south Lanarkshire largely, but the ground itself is in West Lothian? Wonder what they are thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, BS7 said: Am I right in thinking that Harthill is in south Lanarkshire largely, but the ground itself is in West Lothian? Wonder what they are thinking. North Lanarkshire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Let's say the North Caledonian League finally becomes a feeder to the HL, there would surely need to be a Grampian/Tayside-centric league opposite of it too. Is that the way Tayside teams would be introduced to the pyramid? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, BS7 said: Am I right in thinking that Harthill is in south Lanarkshire largely, but the ground itself is in West Lothian? Wonder what they are thinking. North Lanarkshire, the ground is about 20 yards into West Lothian in Greenrigg, but Greenrigg and Harthill are basically one village. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Certainly if the village /town is nearby, and on the other side of the line, they can choose which side they go to. Dundee? It is within 100 yards of the line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilwinning Rangers 1899 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 All i want is my club to be the best they can, it really is that simple. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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