Sharker Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gusty said: Yeh Rangers fans are the bad guys here Rangers supporters actually paid off many of the clubs creditors through the RFFF. That was solely down to the clubs support doing what they believed to be the right and just thing. Dunfermline Athletic for example were paid in full for the ticket money that they did not receive from the club. The support paid that bill in full. To continue to deny what has been proven in court is stomach churning to be honest. It says everything about you and the rest of the Celtic posters on here that not one of you will criticise the club. Wasn't talking about your creditors I was talking about one of the boys sexualy abused at Ibrox ...but you knew that . If youre that interested in justice for victims why don't you start with your own club who WERE found GUILTY in court of negligence ,lying and trying to cover up their part in the 66 disaster. Why don't you campaign for an apology and an admission of their cover up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharker Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Drew Brees said: There are definitely still questions for Celtic to address, but in the media the club continually appear to be singled out for crimes that happened across the whole of Scottish football (and society). Most probably because the club have been so co-operative with high-profile investigations that have, thankfully, led to multiple convictions. Everything about it is tragic and only in Scotland would it be used for one-upmanship. Agreed, Celtic did release a statement last year saying they were fully complying with investigations and urged anyone else to come forward, this latest part has been covered by TV and Press , and the latest figure for the national investigations into child abuse at UK club's is something like 3000 victims and over 300 club's accused...Rangers fans gloating over one club just sums it up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 18:59, Tartantony said: Rangers On 5/15/2019 at 19:28, gannonball said: Rangers 9 hours ago, Sharker said: Rangers 5 hours ago, Sharker said: Ibrox 5 hours ago, Sharker said: Rangers That, tragically, is always the answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharker Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: That, tragically, is always the answer. ..and, Which club has the largest amount of wankers supporting it, is always the question. Edited May 17, 2019 by Sharker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 hours ago, Sharker said: I guess paying compensation is admitting guilt. For me the practices in place now should be highlighted from 20 years ago. Community coaching to disclosure Scotland from bottom to top making sure these parasites have no place in football or society. There is no doubt duty of care from clubs across the UK should've been better 20 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 That, tragically, is always the answer.That you on the Celtic thread again?Thought you didn't like people doing that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: For me the practices in place now should be highlighted from 20 years ago. Community coaching to disclosure Scotland from bottom to top making sure these parasites have no place in football or society. There is no doubt duty of care from clubs across the UK should've been better 20 years ago. Disclosure forms , i'm afraid, will not stop these people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Drew Brees said: There are definitely still questions for Celtic to address, but in the media the club continually appear to be singled out for crimes that happened across the whole of Scottish football (and society). Most probably because the club have been so co-operative with high-profile investigations that have, thankfully, led to multiple convictions. Everything about it is tragic and only in Scotland would it be used for one-upmanship. What is tragic is people like yourself who accuse others of using child abuse of oneupmanship. All that evil needs to succeed ....... It is up to everyone to call out these b*****ds WHEREVER they are !!! I would have thought that child abuse and bringing those responsible to justice is one of the few things that would bring the whole of Scottish Football together. Obviously not as 'The name of Celtic Football Club must be protected AT ALL COSTS' ETA... Using the death of 66 football supporters in an accident that could have happened anywhere at anytime is probably as sick as it gets. If Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys Club are separate then why did the football club investigate them in the mid 80s? Why did the OFFICIAL Celtic Football Club magazine have match reports and weekly updates of the Separate Boys Club? Why did the then Celtic Football Club manager kick one of the Beats out the boys club? Why did the normally PR savvy Celtic board go down this separate Entity route when it is glaring obvious to all that they are one and the same. Making Celtic Boys Club change their name to St Patricks () Boys Club just brings heat on to the present day board that didn't need to be there after the great work done by Fergus McCann in outing these b*****ds. Celtic simply cannot stay silent any longer now that we have Red Tops that have been the mouthpiece of the Celtic board breaking ranks and Celtic supporting SNP politicians speaking out it is time for the truth to come out. The whole truth no matter how painful it is for the club. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gusty said: Disclosure forms , i'm afraid, will not stop these people. You have made it clear that your only here to put the boot in to Celtic. Within both our supports there is murders,rapist,child abusers all manner of disgusting human beings but you still try to point the finger. No football club is to blame for an individuals crime. A lot has happened in 20 years, football has got it's house in order to make sure these type of crimes stay in the history books. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Someone using the name of a murdering terorrist calling others sick. Why has this person not been banned for the username alone btw? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: Someone using the name of a murdering terorrist calling others sick. Why has this person not been banned for the username alone btw? FFS not this again. It is my name but i would have thought that was obvious to any normal thinking person. Not giving my full name but it is Angus and i am called Gus or Gusty. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharker Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Gusty said: What is tragic is people like yourself who accuse others of using child abuse of oneupmanship. All that evil needs to succeed ....... It is up to everyone to call out these b*****ds WHEREVER they are !!! I would have thought that child abuse and bringing those responsible to justice is one of the few things that would bring the whole of Scottish Football together. Obviously not as 'The name of Celtic Football Club must be protected AT ALL COSTS' ETA... Using the death of 66 football supporters in an accident that could have happened anywhere at anytime is probably as sick as it gets. If Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys Club are separate then why did the football club investigate them in the mid 80s? Why did the OFFICIAL Celtic Football Club magazine have match reports and weekly updates of the Separate Boys Club? Why did the then Celtic Football Club manager kick one of the Beats out the boys club? Why did the normally PR savvy Celtic board go down this separate Entity route when it is glaring obvious to all that they are one and the same. Making Celtic Boys Club change their name to St Patricks () Boys Club just brings heat on to the present day board that didn't need to be there after the great work done by Fergus McCann in outing these b*****ds. Celtic simply cannot stay silent any longer now that we have Red Tops that have been the mouthpiece of the Celtic board breaking ranks and Celtic supporting SNP politicians speaking out it is time for the truth to come out. The whole truth no matter how painful it is for the club. There was nothing accidental about the 66 disaster, I know that's how Rangers fans like to cover it up . But it was negligence by Rangers PROVEN in court ,found guilty and ordered the pay compensation to the victims, Rangers directors and Manger went to court and lied all the way through. Why don't you read about it from someone who was in court. http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/page/Rangers+-+Falling+Masonry So far as the evidence is concerned, the Board never so much as considered that it ought to apply its mind to the question of safety on that particular stairway [...] and would appear – I put it no higher – to have proceeded on the view that if the problem was ignored long enough it would eventually go away [...] Indeed it goes further than this because certain of their actions can only be interpreted as a deliberate and apparently successful attempt to deceive others that they were doing something, when in fact they were doing nothing. — Sheriff Irvine Smith, Edited May 17, 2019 by Sharker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: You have made it clear that your only here to put the boot in to Celtic. Within both our supports there is murders,rapist,child abusers all manner of disgusting human beings but you still try to point the finger. No football club is to blame for an individuals crime. A lot has happened in 20 years, football has got it's house in order to make sure these type of crimes stay in the history books. What a lot of pish. Just because you pass a disclosure doesn't mean you're not a future sex offender. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: You have made it clear that your only here to put the boot in to Celtic. Within both our supports there is murders,rapist,child abusers all manner of disgusting human beings but you still try to point the finger. No football club is to blame for an individuals crime. A lot has happened in 20 years, football has got it's house in order to make sure these type of crimes stay in the history books. I am not here to put the boot into the present Celtic Board. I simply do not understand why they have chosen to go the way they have but as far as the crimes committed they are historical and those responsible for the cover up should be held accountable. Surely you agree with that ? Yep there are many utter scumbags that follow all football clubs and the Old Firm seem to attract more than their fair share but that doesn't mean to say we ignore a Paedophile ring FFS! You simply don't see it despite it being spelt out for you . It is not the individual crimes but the cover up of said crimes and now , to a lesser extent, the outright denial of any responsibility. The club have a duty of care FFS! It goes back a lot further than 20 years. Try doubling that figure! I don't know how much you know about working with kids but Disclosure Scotland is not going to keep Paedophiles out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, tree house tam said: What a lot of pish. Just because you pass a disclosure doesn't mean you're not a future sex offender. Hahahahaha. Give Willie a break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sharker said: There was nothing accidental about the 66 disaster, I know that's how Rangers fans like to cover it up . But it was negligence by Rangers PROVEN in court ,found guilty and ordered the pay compensation to the victims, Rangers directors and Manger went to court and lied all the way through. Why don't you read about it from someone who was in court. http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/page/Rangers+-+Falling+Masonry So far as the evidence is concerned, the Board never so much as considered that it ought to apply its mind to the question of safety on that particular stairway [...] and would appear – I put it no higher – to have proceeded on the view that if the problem was ignored long enough it would eventually go away [...] Indeed it goes further than this because certain of their actions can only be interpreted as a deliberate and apparently successful attempt to deceive others that they were doing something, when in fact they were doing nothing. — Sheriff Irvine Smith, You ll have to help me out here. What the f**k has any of that got to do with a Paedophile Ring at Celtic Football Club? Probably the single worse and sickest whataboutery i have seen on a football forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 You ll have to help me out here. What the f**k has any of that got to do with a Paedophile Ring at Celtic Football Club? Probably the single worse and sickest whataboutery i have seen on a football forum.Careful now, you'll get banned for the umpteenth time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharker Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gusty said: You ll have to help me out here. What the f**k has any of that got to do with a Paedophile Ring at Celtic Football Club? Probably the single worse and sickest whataboutery i have seen on a football forum. Oh nothing, just thought in Rangers fans crusade for justice for victims ,they'd be looking at their own club who tried and failed in court to cover up their blame in the death of 66 fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyStooge Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 And round and round we go... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, tree house tam said: What a lot of pish. Just because you pass a disclosure doesn't mean you're not a future sex offender. No body said that,coaches are vetted regular from bottom to top. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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