well fan for life Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So we’ve got someone selling pick & mix in a tub, and a snake of a recruitment agent who can’t do arithmetic. You’re on to a definite winner here, Alsh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviClyde Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 James should have been fired for using an accreditation on his website which he did not have. Blatant deception and Suger has done his integrity no favours by putting him in the final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 How on earth did James get through that? Michaela doesn't seem to need Alan Sugar or his money to be honest. She's probably one of the most credible candidates in terms of actual experience that the apprentice has had in a long time. She's built herself up from the ground and seems to have good ideas at the same time as having the drive to actually seeing her ideas through. The reality is she's the strongest candidate but wouldn't be at Sugar's beckon call. Sarah is surely a shoe-in to win now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I've asked this before I'm sure but does anyone have any idea how much Sugar will make from the show itself? His fee probably covers his investment. Though £250K out of his pocket is probably the equivalent of £50 out of my pocket. The show is definitely all about the entertainment now. Certainly not a serious business show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSU Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Sure I read somewhere that he donates his fee to something like Great Ormond Street hospital. No idea what the actual fee is, though. I've always thought that the 250k for 50% regardless of the business was a bit off. It's like no matter what the business is and whether or not it was established or just existed in the head of the candidate, it puts an immediate value at half a million. I'm sure that works out in Sugar's favour more often than not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 James should have been fired for using an accreditation on his website which he did not have. Blatant deception and Suger has done his integrity no favours by putting him in the final. Not mention tying to poach staff whilst working for a company to set up his own company.Total snake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I’m just really pleased that Elizabeth doesn’t win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I’m just really pleased that Elizabeth doesn’t win. She’ll still try and make the finale all about her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rankine Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Sure I read somewhere that he donates his fee to something like Great Ormond Street hospital. No idea what the actual fee is, though. I've always thought that the 250k for 50% regardless of the business was a bit off. It's like no matter what the business is and whether or not it was established or just existed in the head of the candidate, it puts an immediate value at half a million. I'm sure that works out in Sugar's favour more often than not. I see your point but it's still a better deal than typically offered to the Dragon's Den participants. They often give up significant %s of their business idea for multiples of £10,000 rather than £250,000. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 hours ago, smpar said: I’m just really pleased that Elizabeth doesn’t win. It came out in the interviews that some of her customers found her unpleasant to deal with, which I could readily believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, NewBornBairn said: It came out in the interviews that some of her customers found her unpleasant to deal with, which I could readily believe. The most Elizabeth moment was precisely that. She was told that a customer left a review saying she was rude, loud and aggressive. Elizabeth denied the claim by answering the question in a rude, loud and aggressive manner. Absolute c**t of a person. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSU Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 9 hours ago, mike rankine said: On 12/14/2017 at 10:00, MSU said: Sure I read somewhere that he donates his fee to something like Great Ormond Street hospital. No idea what the actual fee is, though. I've always thought that the 250k for 50% regardless of the business was a bit off. It's like no matter what the business is and whether or not it was established or just existed in the head of the candidate, it puts an immediate value at half a million. I'm sure that works out in Sugar's favour more often than not. I see your point but it's still a better deal than typically offered to the Dragon's Den participants. They often give up significant %s of their business idea for multiples of £10,000 rather than £250,000. You're right, it's definitely better than the standard Dragon's Den deal. I guess with DD, there's at least an element of negotiation and historic turnover and profit at least *seem* to have an impact on the valuation. I haven't seen it in a while, but in earlier series the likes on Bannantyne would just act the c**t and demand half the business. And then of course at the end of the scale you'd get the halfwits who want 100k for 3% of a doggie grooming business that has made a hundred quid over the last three years. At least the Apprentice guys know what they're getting into upfront. Anyone else a little surprised that Elizabeth was a girl when she was growing up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I reckon you'd be better with a Dragon though. Sugar all but says he doesn't want anything to do with the actual running of the business. I feel a Dragon would be a bit more hands on. Could be well off mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSU Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I reckon you'd be better with a Dragon though. Sugar all but says he doesn't want anything to do with the actual running of the business. I feel a Dragon would be a bit more hands on. Could be well off mind you. This season, probably more than any, they've dropped this hand off approach into the conversation, and he's done it himself in the boardroom. Yet when one of them said they needed his help going from 3m to 30m, he seemed to suggest that was what floated his boat. Whether it's Sugar or his staff that are involved, you'd hope there'd be some mentoring that would allow him to take disproportionate credit for any success. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Can't remember giving less of a shit about a final. Two nonentities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The two worst finalists ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The whole thing is flawed. Two people have to pitch their businesses but they're hindered by having the losers and weirdos from previous weeks screwing things up for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Another thing: this is their own business idea that they've been working on for a long time but they don't even have a clue what the name is? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Joanna is a very attractive woman. That's all I have to contribute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Aye I can't believe they don't already have a brand name. And yes, Joanna is a hunny. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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