Monkey Tennis Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mr Meeker said: Oxfordshire does. The prosecution rests Shit, you're right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Loads of English counties don't end in 'shire'. But they do contain lots of “shite”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Looking at the Deearchive On This Day section found this report of a 1934/35 Forfarshire Cup Semi Final Replay played on Monday 19 August 1935. Looking at the scores had never heard of the South Western Cup so a quick trip to sfha.org.uk to discover it was a competition for the 4 Ayrshire and Renfrewshire Scottish League clubs that ran from 1931 to 1936. The result in this report looks to be the 2nd Leg of the previous season’s final so Kilmarnock won the cup 6-5 on aggregate. St Mirren won in 1931/32, no competition in 32/33, Ayr United in 33/34, Kilmarnock 34/35 and Morton in 35/36. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Courtesy of arbroatharchive.co.uk a good spot the ball competition photo. Saturday 19 August 1933 Scottish Second Division Montrose 2 Arbroath 1 att: 2,500. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Loads of English counties don't end in 'shire'. Ah Kent that! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Eednud said: Looking at the scores had never heard of the South Western Cup so a quick trip to sfha.org.uk to discover it was a competition for the 4 Ayrshire and Renfrewshire Scottish League clubs that ran from 1931 to 1936. The result in this report looks to be the 2nd Leg of the previous season’s final so Kilmarnock won the cup 6-5 on aggregate. St Mirren won in 1931/32, no competition in 32/33, Ayr United in 33/34, Kilmarnock 34/35 and Morton in 35/36. There were a few attempts to establish cups for top rank clubs covering wide geographic areas - so neither national nor local - but they never really took off. Probably the other prominent case was the North-Eastern Cup, which started when the East of Scotland Supplementary League ended in 1908 and involved Hearts, Hibs, Leith, Falkirk, Raith, Dundee plus Aberdeen. It didn't return after WWI:Finals1909 Dundee 9-2 Aberdeen 1910 Hearts 3-0 Leith 1911 Hibs 1-0 Falkirk (at Tynecastle) 1912 Dundee 0-1 Falkirk 1913 Hearts 3-0 Falkirk 1914 Hearts 0-1 Aberdeen There was a similar attempt to carry on the Glasgow & West of Scotland Supplementary League as a knockout Shield after it ended, but 1906-07 was the only season, with Clyde beating Hamilton 3-2 on aggregate. There was also the Loftus Cup (later the Wallace Cup) for Fife, Forfarshire and Perthshire. It ran from 1911 to 1931, often as a league, but was a perpetual unfinished shambles; likely only ever used to haphazardly fill blank weeks: Loftus Cup (sfha.org.uk) More effective was the approach taken in the north-east whereby the winners of the Aberdeenshire, Forfarshire, Perthshire and Stirlingshire cups contested the Dewar Shield... After romping the county cups Aberdeen and St Johnstone eventually withdrew, playing-off against the local cup winner for a place in the Shield. Worthy of mention is the Penman Cup which took in clubs from across Fife and central Scotland, the Lothians and occasionally Tayside - remarkably it lasted from 1900s to 1960s. Begun as a first-team tournament to give interest late in the season it gradually 'morphed' into an unofficial 2nd XI/reserve tournament. Incidentally the first-ever competitive game by floodlight here was a Penman Cup tie on Wednesday 25th January 1956: Edited August 19, 2023 by HibeeJibee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: There was also the Loftus Cup (later the Wallace Cup) for Fife, Forfarshire and Perthshire. It ran from 1911 to 1931, often as a league, but was a perpetual unfinished shambles; likely only ever used to haphazardly fill blank weeks: Loftus Cup (sfha.org.uk) As mentioned in the SFHA link Dundee & District Junior League clubs participated in a Loftus Cup from 1948/49 to 1967/68. Any idea if it was the same trophy? Loftus Cup 1948-49 Dundee Violet 1949-50 Elmwood 1950-51 Osborne 1951-52 Carnoustie Panmure 1952-53 Carnoustie Panmure 1953-54 Carnoustie Panmure 1954-55 Dundee Violet 1955-56 Carnoustie Panmure 1956-57 Dundee North End 1957-58 Osborne 1958-59 Dundee North End 1959-60 Lochee Harp 1960-61 Lochee Harp 1961-62 Dundee St Joseph's 1962-63 Dundee Violet 1963-64 Dundee Violet 1964-65 Lochee United 1965-66 Dundee Violet 1966-67 Dundee Violet 1967-68 Dundee St Joseph's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 19/08/2023 at 05:47, Eednud said: Courtesy of arbroatharchive.co.uk a good spot the ball competition photo. Saturday 19 August 1933 Scottish Second Division Montrose 2 Arbroath 1 att: 2,500. I wonder if that Brand was related to the Ralph Brand who played for Arbroath in the late 1980s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Scotland's Chloe Arthur taking on Spain in the Women's Euros in 2018. Scotland didn't get beaten. Unlike other teams today... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, tamthebam said: Scotland's Chloe Arthur taking on Spain in the Women's Euros in 2018. Scotland didn't get beaten. Unlike other teams today... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Coventry, Leeds and Manchester United Scottish players at various points. The Manchester United contingent I found hardest to name. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Rangers marked their centenary 50yrs ago today v Arsenal: Edited August 20, 2023 by HibeeJibee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDee1893 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 16 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Coventry, Leeds and Manchester United Scottish players at various points. The Manchester United contingent I found hardest to name. Pure guess but is the guy on the left Alex Forsyth? I can make out Martin Buchan, George Graham, Denis Law, Pat Crerand, Willie Morgan and Tommy Docherty. Stumped with the boy between Law and Crerand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar P Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 The programme from the first match between East Stirling and Clydebank at Firs Park after the Steedman episode. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ScottyDee1893 said: Pure guess but is the guy on the left Alex Forsyth? I can make out Martin Buchan, George Graham, Denis Law, Pat Crerand, Willie Morgan and Tommy Docherty. Stumped with the boy between Law and Crerand John Fitzpatrick Edited August 21, 2023 by Ken Fitlike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Brockville of course, and Hearts the visitors as you can clearly see... but who is the mystery man wearing #10 for Falkirk... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 15/08/2023 at 22:03, SimonLichtie said: Hello. Long time lurker on this thread, and despite very rarely posting on here it formed part of my initial 'wouldn't it be good if there was more Arbroath related history stuff online' thinking a couple of years ago. This resulted in me taking things slightly too far, as I have a tendancy to do, and creating The Arbroath Archive. Most of the below is a copy and paste from press stuff a couple of weeks ago, because I'm a lazy b*****d and it's easier this way The archive is now fully live and can be found here; Arbroath Archive. Below gives a rough idea of what we've got on there: · A record of every game we've played from 1878 until present day, with over 6400 total games in total, with game date (teams, subs, scorers, ref etc) where known, and highlights for modern day games · A match report for every almost every game with thousands of old reports from the Arbroath Herald & Arbroath Guide and dozens of other sources, as well as fan reports from the old arbroathfc.org.uk website for our games in the 90s and early 00s · A profile for every player who has played for the club containing their full playing record for the club as well as player info, a picture where we have it and a biography · Our all-time player appearance records, goalscorer records and clean sheet records · Hundreds of pictures, programme covers, a managerial timeline, hat trick heroes and lots more! As well as the site itself, we will be looking to keep our social media pages fairly active with regular posts on a whole host of things, such as 'Guess the Player', 'On This Day', 'Did You Know?' etc. as well as hopefully further articles/ interviews in the future. FacebookTwitter On the Facebook/ Twitter pages I try to post twice a day; an 'On This Day' and something older/ different like the following.... it's this content that seems like it'd be of more interest to posters in this thread Our manager Albert Henderson went to watch Alex Ferguson, then a part timer at St Johnstone, play in December 1963... unfortunately he'd been promoted to the first team that day and promptly scored a hat trick at Ibrox.... safe to say any sort of move was scuppered In 1950, one of our players was fined for playing football in the street.... Gayfield in 1950 Shooting practice in January 1939. The committee in April 1935. Three of our fans in 1965. Another copy and paste job below due to the aforementioned lazyness George Best at Gayfield! One of the things we've been lucky to get our hands on is previously unseen highlights from the Arbroath v Arbroath Vics match played in August 1982 to mark the junior clubs centenary. The game, which was won 4-3 by the Vics with Best scoring two penalties, was captured on a VHS Camcorder from the Gayfield tunnel and the footage had been in the loft of former Arbroath Vics committee member Ed Collier for the past few decades. After Ed's passing last year his son, also named Ed, found the footage and gave us a copy. The highlights are 20 minutes long with Best being prominent throughout. He wasn't the only 'well kent' face on display that day however, with both teams featuring plenty of players who still have lots of connections to the club and town of Arbroath itself. That's a fantastic archive, well done to all involved in compiling it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottyDee1893 said: Stumped with the boy between Law and Crerand It's Garth from Wayne's World. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Coventry, Leeds and Manchester United Scottish players at various points. The Manchester United contingent I found hardest to name. Willie Morgan looks suitably embarrassed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Brockville of course, and Hearts the visitors as you can clearly see... but who is the mystery man wearing #10 for Falkirk... Looks like Tommy Burns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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