Bing.McCrosby Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: It certainly didn't affect his performance against Spain in March anyway. Well thats impossible to say, what we do know is less match sharpness will affect performance. So he may have been able to play better had he been playing regularly. He would also have lasted the full 90 mins rather than have to be subbed off. So yeah it absolutely affected that performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 We seem to have entered a period (pioneered by Pep) where your standard full back - of which Tierney is a glowing example - Is almost redundant. Watching the Brentford-Spurs game and Ange is using his "right back" in midfield and his "left back" is really a centre-back. Just like Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool are now doing. I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Liverpool sign a left-centre back now, which might see Robbo consigned to the bench. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ArabFC said: We seem to have entered a period (pioneered by Pep) where your standard full back - of which Tierney is a glowing example - Is almost redundant. Watching the Brentford-Spurs game and Ange is using his "right back" in midfield and his "left back" is really a centre-back. Just like Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool are now doing. Or maybe the traditional notion of fixed positioning and "formations" are just less important. Tierney and Robertson play up and down the length of Scotland's left hand side, adjusting their position on the pitch based on the situation in game - manipulating numbers to create advantages. Is that really so different to what Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool do? Edited August 13, 2023 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Bing.McCrosby said: Well thats impossible to say, He would also have lasted the full 90 mins rather than have to be subbed off. So yeah it absolutely affected that performance. Make your mind up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Aidan said: Make your mind up Well on a footballing side its impossible to say, only he could answer that question really. On a match fitness side its not up for debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 His goalscoring record is absolutely shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 22 hours ago, 2426255 said: Or maybe the traditional notion of fixed positioning and "formations" are just less important. Tierney and Robertson play up and down the length of Scotland's left hand side, adjusting their position on the pitch based on the situation in game - manipulating numbers to create advantages. Is that really so different to what Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool do? Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Arsenal bloggers reporting that the Timber knee injury is a very serious one that will keep him out for months. I think that may push Arsenal to keep Tierney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 And he'll still be behind Zinchenko and Tomiyasu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Doubt Timber’s injury will make any difference. The biggest issue will be that they want to sell him and both Sociedad and Newcastle are supposedly wanting him on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albagubrath Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 18 hours ago, eez-eh said: Doubt Timber’s injury will make any difference. The biggest issue will be that they want to sell him and both Sociedad and Newcastle are supposedly wanting him on loan. I read that Newcastle want a loan due to FFP, if that's the case surely a loan with obligation to buy next year can be structured. I think he will move before the window closes and I think Newcastle is a very likely destination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Newcastle are linked with Lewis Hall which could rule out a move for Tierney 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiblue Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Is he basically fecked until Arsenal contract expires? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, skiblue said: Is he basically fecked until Arsenal contract expires? This guy has good contacts at Arsenal. Basically says they want to move him on but only on a permanent deal and if the money is right. Most of the top clubs have 7 defenders in the first team squad and the Timber injury puts Tierney 7th for Arsenal (White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Kiwior and KT). They'll need to bring in a replacement if he goes whereas before the Timber injury he was genuinely surplus to requirements. Edited August 17, 2023 by Donathan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albagubrath Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 17 hours ago, accies1874 said: Newcastle are linked with Lewis Hall which could rule out a move for Tierney What's weird is apparently they (Newcastle) are going to pay £28m for him. But the press has been saying that Newcastle cannot buy Tierney due to FFP rules - the fee quoted for Tierney is £25m. Now, putting aside the obvious which is that the press talk absolute bobbins constantly and have no inside info at all on the transfer market, this makes little sense. Do they see Tierney as a potential second choice? If so it seems likely his injury history is really working against him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, albagubrath said: Now, putting aside the obvious which is that the press talk absolute bobbins constantly and have no inside info at all on the transfer market. You answered your own question. I'd say don't put that aside and you'll have your explanation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albagubrath Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, 2426255 said: You answered your own question. I'd say don't put that aside and you'll have your explanation. We'd struggle to have much of a chat about anything related to transfers if we didn't use the press as the basis for opinions though. This is a chat board so people tend to like to chat! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Quote Well he (Tierney) played the final (Charity Shield), no? So a player who plays five days before in the final is part of the plans for sure. Mikel Arteta https://youtu.be/jX6GqgMeAOQ?t=87 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 2426255 said: https://youtu.be/jX6GqgMeAOQ?t=87 Bit disingenuous tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHF-23 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, accies1874 said: Bit disingenuous tbh Not wanting to merge with another thread but this is where placing a great deal of weight on what manager's tell you falls down imo. Why believe your lying eyes when a manager with clear motivations to be economical with the truth tells you something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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