Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 It's going to be an excruciating, slow drift rightwards to try and persuade racist old boomers who have no intention of ever voting Labour again.Quite. Labour are just inane, pointless shite both south and north of the border. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gordon EF Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 In two-party systems I suppose there's this feeling that if you're bland enough in opposition, you just need to wait until the sitting government piss off enough of the electorate and then you get your turn and begin slowly pissing enough people off until the other lot get their next turn. This seems to the the central tenet of the Labour centre/right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: It's going to be an excruciating, slow drift rightwards to try and persuade racist old boomers who have no intention of ever voting Labour again. Labour in Scotland is finished. No strategy or change of course will having any meaningful impact. Post Independence I hope and believe Scotland will be run by a left-of-centre party or coalition, I can imagine one or two of the troughers trying to get in on the act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: In two-party systems I suppose there's this feeling that if you're bland enough in opposition, you just need to wait until the sitting government piss off enough of the electorate and then you get your turn and begin slowly pissing enough people off until the other lot get their next turn. This seems to the the central tenet of the Labour centre/right. This is definitely what Labour think and are banking on. The problem (well, one of them) is that the Home Counties tend to get pissed off with them and go running back to old Governess Tory far quicker than they get pissed off with the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, MixuFruit said: Unless and until they get rid of the darkies, the Tory vote share in England will stay north of 40%. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994 Clearly that pig-fucker Cameron knew this. The Tories promote the idea that “multiculturalism” has been a regrettable leftie experiment, thereby comforting their racist core voters that one day, one day, they’ll reverse things and return the undesirables to Bongo Bongo land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'd say that conflating an ethnic group or religious orientation with a fucking job occupation is an utterly ridiculous comment, not sure where fair comes into it either way The “imagine if word X was replaced by Word Y! Would that be alright?” trope is a fairly good indicator of an idiot Imagine if “Twist and Shout” were replaced by “The Horst Wessel song” Motherwell fans are utter scum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Douglas Alexander definitely not a bully because this is what innocent people do. Karma, nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I can remember reading a Times column from when Gordon Brown was PM that basically argued that private school English types couldn't handle how directly aggressive Scottish people are when they are annoyed. Alexander is a twat but the people he bullied are probably complete fannies as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: I can remember reading a Times column from when Gordon Brown was PM that basically argued that private school English types couldn't handle how directly aggressive Scottish people are when they are annoyed. Alexander is a twat but the people he bullied are probably complete fannies as well. He's an aggressive Sevcoian fud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just reminded of Alexander being emptied by Black in 2015. Delicious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Labour are fucked because they need to win back the 'red wall' and Scotland to have any chance of governing. The messaging they think is required to win back the red wall like doing a brexit, flag shagging, thinking Britain and it's decrepit institutions are sexy and letting are brave boys do war crimes is inevitably going to go down like a lead balloon up here. Equally, giving Jockistan permission to have a referendum, or chucking more money at the subsidy junkies won't play well down south with their coveted Daily Express columnist demographic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Academically Deficient Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Labour are fucked because they need to win back the 'red wall' and Scotland to have any chance of governing. The messaging they think is required to win back the red wall like doing a brexit, flag shagging, thinking Britain and it's decrepit institutions are sexy and letting are brave boys do war crimes is inevitably going to go down like a lead balloon up here. Equally, giving Jockistan permission to have a referendum, or chucking more money at the subsidy junkies won't play well down south with their coveted Daily Express columnist demographic. Nail on head. They can't have it both ways. So which are they prepared to give up? My guess is Scotland, because they're too far gone here. They won't admit it though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Academically Deficient said: Nail on head. They can't have it both ways. So which are they prepared to give up? My guess is Scotland, because they're too far gone here. They won't admit it though. Not only that they’re too far gone, but they must know from years of having Scotland as a fiefdom and still losing UK general elections that even a large majority of Scottish constituencies doesn’t mean forming a UK government. To ever win, they need the Tories to lose the support of most English constituencies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 17 hours ago, Detournement said: I can remember reading a Times column from when Gordon Brown was PM that basically argued that private school English types couldn't handle how directly aggressive Scottish people are when they are annoyed. Alexander is a twat but the people he bullied are probably complete fannies as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: 17 points to go https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/26/labour-takes-poll-lead-as-parties-see-major-switch-in-fortunes From the same poll. Seems most people are happy with Sturgeon’s leadership; but strangely not the Tories! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkee Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Late to the party here but to put it simply... THERE IS NOT POINT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Labour now leading in the polls just shows that they should have binned toxic Corbyn years ago. Unfortunately there are still people who pine for his socialist madnesses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkee Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 What polls are they leading in, I have ready nothing but negative views on Starmer so I would love to be proved wrong. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Richard Leonard is an actual piece of shit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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