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Labour’s biggest problem is that all those attacking it are from the right of the Party; Campbell, Blair, Watson, etc.  I can fully understand why Corbyn would ignore these discredited people.

What is desperately needed is people on the left of Labour telling Corbyn that he’s making a monumental f**k up of Brexit.

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10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Labour’s biggest problem is that all those attacking it are from the right of the Party; Campbell, Blair, Watson, etc.  I can fully understand why Corbyn would ignore these discredited people.

What is desperately needed is people on the left of Labour telling Corbyn that he’s making a monumental f**k up of Brexit.

The won't. Because Cobyn along with all of his Labour MPs..... DONT WANT TO BE IN GOVERNMENT.

Why would they when they already know the next government is ducked from the very start?

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On 31/05/2019 at 22:34, Granny Danger said:

Labour’s biggest problem is that all those attacking it are from the right of the Party; Campbell, Blair, Watson, etc.  I can fully understand why Corbyn would ignore these discredited people.

What is desperately needed is people on the left of Labour telling Corbyn that he’s making a monumental f**k up of Brexit.

The boss of Momentum has more or less said that.

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The boss of Momentum has more or less said that.

Some leftists already are saying there needs to be a left anti-Brexit voice. 

 

 

Some left unions are supporting this.

 

 

https://labourlist.org/2019/06/tssa-conference-votes-against-brexit-for-public-vote-on-any-deal/

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affairs/brexit/news/104278/union-chief-calls-jeremy-corbyn-back-second-referendum

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Like I said earlier, Labour has reached a tipping point.  It’s taken long enough but the anti-Brexit left and right must work together to ensure no more compromised position.

 

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Disagree with Tom Watson on many things but find it hard to argue with anything he says here.  A very slick presentation too.

I hope this embeds properly.

https://mobile.twitter.com/annaturley/status/1140504874913681408?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1140507691124776961&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-48658683

This will be a huge embarrassment for Corbyn coming from his deputy but is totally justified.

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Looks like there’s going to be a further fudge after today’s Shadow Cabinet meeting.

Labour might insist on a confirmatory public vote on any decision by Parliament but won’t support a second Referendum where ‘Remain’ is an option.

A further nail in Labour’s coffin and a huge boost for the Tories. 

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Looks like there’s going to be a further fudge after today’s Shadow Cabinet meeting.
Labour might insist on a confirmatory public vote on any decision by Parliament but won’t support a second Referendum where ‘Remain’ is an option.
A further nail in Labour’s coffin and a huge boost for the Tories. 
I think that if Corbyn is still Labour leader as a GE eventually comes to pass then the last rites could be administered to his party - and they would deserve it.

There is however one outcome which could save it, and that is that a Johnson-led Government plunges the country of a crisis unparalleled in modern times, and that must be a possibility.
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6 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Looks like there’s going to be a further fudge after today’s Shadow Cabinet meeting.

Labour might insist on a confirmatory public vote on any decision by Parliament but won’t support a second Referendum where ‘Remain’ is an option.

A further nail in Labour’s coffin and a huge boost for the Tories. 

Labour are demonstrating that they are ready for government.

At a time of national crisis - they will do what needs to be done.

Prevericate. :unsure2:

For as long as necessary!

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It looks like Labour will call a VoC in the government as soon as a new PM is in place.

Any Labour MP who doesn’t vote in support of that motion should be immediately expelled from the party.

There can be no greater betrayal by a Labour MP than to vote against or even abstain in such a motion.

 

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Danielle Rowley, just appointed Shadow Minister for Climate Justice and Green Jobs just stated on BBC Politics programme that she has ben learning a lot about beavers recently. [emoji4]
Trade deal with Canada ?
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Not sure but Tom Watson’s end game is but this latest stunt related to Chris Williamson will cause an entrenchment on the left which is likely to impact upon the Brexit policy.  It shouldn’t but it is likely that it will.

 

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