The normalisation of the far-right continues

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Earlier on I described what I believed far-right to be

Where was this? I'm seriously curious.

[Duries Air Freshener]

6 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Where was this? I'm seriously curious.

It's on page 171 in orange text.

[williemillersmoustache]

Everything to the left of the Third Reich is centrism. JFC. 

Put, the c**t, on ignore. 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

1 minute ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Everything to the left of the Third Reich is centrism. JFC. 

Put, the c**t, on ignore. 

This. If folk would stop quoting the pointless little fucker, that would be lovely. 

[Duries Air Freshener]

14 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Everything to the left of the Third Reich is centrism. JFC. 

Put, the c**t, on ignore. 

That's not what I'm saying at all.

The only reason I stand out is because 99% of people on here are left wing.  Me pointing out the incorrect usage of 'far-right' is not trolling.  Most normal people don't bandy it about willy nilly the way that's done on here.  There's no way the ten names listed in that article are far-right.

All your sneering and insults are like water off a duck's back.  I simply won't be reacting to it.  If people don't want to engage sensibly, then putting me on ignore is preferable for me.

Even the wikipedia definition shows something wildly different to what's said on here, and pretty much aligns with what I laid out in orange text on page 171 of this thread.

"Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being authoritarian and ultra-nationalist, as well as having nativist ideologies and tendencies.^[1]

Historically used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism, far-right politics now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.

Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions."

Edited August 18, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener

[Wee-Bey]

Unless your name is Adolf, you can't be far right.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Even the wikipedia definition shows something wildly different to what's said on here, and pretty much aligns with what I laid out in orange text on page 171 of this thread.

"Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being authoritarian and ultra-nationalist, as well as having nativist ideologies and tendencies.^[1]

Historically used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism, far-right politics now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.

Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions."

So you think the wiki definition of far-right is fair?

[Duries Air Freshener]

8 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

So you think the wiki definition of far-right is fair?

Aye, I’d say it’s probably a good one, Asim.  What are your thoughts?

It’s one you can’t apply to the ten people listed in the Daily Kos article.

Maybe the author(s) of the Wikipedia piece are just trolls, idiots and c***s?

Edited August 18, 2022 by Duries Air Freshener

[Billy Jean King]

NHATS!!!!!!

Irish air traffic controllers ???

[Granny Danger]

27 minutes ago, Snafu said:

btw I'm reading 'In Search Of Jesus The Anarchist' by Paul Dordal, its an interesting very good read. I read the New Testament before reading it and yeah Jesus was a good guy, very misunderstood, even more misunderstood now. Disapproved of authoritarian rule and materialistic wealth.

Christian anarchists - good guys.

How accurate are the records from that time?

[AsimButtHitsASix]

1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Aye, I’d say it’s probably a good one, Asim.  What are your thoughts?

It’s one you can’t apply to the ten people listed in the Daily Kos article.

Maybe the author(s) of the Wikipedia piece are just trolls, idiots and c***s?

I think it's a decent, generic descriptor. Such a shame it clearly applies to MTG

2 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

"Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being authoritarian and ultra-nationalist, as well as having nativist ideologies and tendencies.^[1]

Historically used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism, far-right politics now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.

Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions."

Authoritarian, Ultra-Nationalist, Chauvinist, Xenophobic, Theocratic, Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic and Reactionary views

If you still don't think she's far right yer an idiot or c**t. 

[Anonapersona]

2 hours ago, Snafu said:

btw I'm reading 'In Search Of Jesus The Anarchist' by Paul Dordal, its an interesting very good read. I read the New Testament before reading it and yeah Jesus was a good guy, very misunderstood, even more misunderstood now. Disapproved of authoritarian rule and materialistic wealth.

Christian anarchists - good guys.

Jesus was definitely a liberal of the times.

Although I don't think he actually existed.

[Duries Air Freshener]

1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

I think it's a decent, generic descriptor. Such a shame it clearly applies to MTG

Authoritarian, Ultra-Nationalist, Chauvinist, Xenophobic, Theocratic, Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic and Reactionary views

If you still don't think she's far right yer an idiot or c**t. 

The floor is yours to explain why these labels apply to MTG.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

10 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

The floor is yours to explain why these labels apply to MTG.

If you need a grown up to click the links for you and explain what the big words mean just say so

[Granny Danger]

27 minutes ago, Anonapersona said:

Jesus was definitely a liberal of the times.

Although I don't think he actually existed.

I think there was a guy kicking around Galilee a couple of thousand years ago who we refer to as Jesus.  He was most likely a very charismatic individual that had a following but was not the son of god and did not perform miracles.

Written accounts of him didn’t appear until long after he was dead and their accuracy will be very questionable.  This makes the fact that some folk believe without question some (but not other) interpretations of what he supposedly stood for is pretty frightening.

 

[The_Kincardine]

2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I think there was a guy kicking around Galilee a couple of thousand years ago who we refer to as Jesus.  He was most likely a very charismatic individual that had a following but was not the son of god and did not perform miracles.

Written accounts of him didn’t appear until long after he was dead and their accuracy will be very questionable.  This makes the fact that some folk believe without question some (but not other) interpretations of what he supposedly stood for is pretty frightening.

When you say, 'long after' what's your timeline?

[Duries Air Freshener]

Just now, AsimButtHitsASix said:

If you need a grown up to click the links for you and explain what the big words mean just say so

Didn't actually realise they linked to articles, but I thank you for the usual charm we've all come to expect from you

Authoritarianism - The Independent probably isn't the best source if you seek credibility.  Nevertheless, the accusations of authoritarianism simply don't hold water.  The tweet in question just expressed opinion that GOP voters want loyalty to Trump.

Ultra Nationalism - Nothing in that link suggests she's an ultra nationalist.  Look up the definition of the term and you'll see what I mean.

Chauvinism - How does her agreement with biological reality make her a chauvinist?

Xenophobia - You'd be doing well to explain this one, as all I can see are negative comments about illegal immigration.

Theocratic - At no stage does she call for a theocracy. 

Racism - You're seriously claiming "So I'm walking around and seeing some good people and I see white people, Black people, brown people, yellow people,”is racist?!  That appears to be the premise of the article.

Homophobia - At no one was anything negative about homosexuals or homosexuality said.

Transphobia - All she did was attack Dr Levine for (insert pronoun here)'s stance on entering sports of the opposing sex and have harmful treatment at such a young age.  Any right thinking person would feel the same.

Reactionary - I'll give you that.

I'm now of the conclusion that you didn't even read these links properly yourself.

[Duries Air Freshener]

24 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I think there was a guy kicking around Galilee a couple of thousand years ago who we refer to as Jesus.  He was most likely a very charismatic individual that had a following but was not the son of god and did not perform miracles.

Written accounts of him didn’t appear until long after he was dead and their accuracy will be very questionable.  This makes the fact that some folk believe without question some (but not other) interpretations of what he supposedly stood for is pretty frightening.

 

Not really.  There are plenty good philosophical, scientific, historical and personal arguments that support the existence of Jesus as God.

[AsimButtHitsASix]

11 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Didn't actually realise they linked to articles, but I thank you for the usual charm we've all come to expect from you

Authoritarianism - The Independent probably isn't the best source if you seek credibility.  Nevertheless, the accusations of authoritarianism simply don't hold water.  The tweet in question just expressed opinion that GOP voters want loyalty to Trump.

Ultra Nationalism - Nothing in that link suggests she's an ultra nationalist.  Look up the definition of the term and you'll see what I mean.

Chauvinism - How does her agreement with biological reality make her a chauvinist?

Xenophobia - You'd be doing well to explain this one, as all I can see are negative comments about illegal immigration.

Theocratic - At no stage does she call for a theocracy. 

Racism - You're seriously claiming "So I'm walking around and seeing some good people and I see white people, Black people, brown people, yellow people,”is racist?!  That appears to be the premise of the article.

Homophobia - At no one was anything negative about homosexuals or homosexuality said.

Transphobia - All she did was attack Dr Levine for (insert pronoun here)'s stance on entering sports of the opposing sex and have harmful treatment at such a young age.  Any right thinking person would feel the same.

Reactionary - I'll give you that.

I'm now of the conclusion that you didn't even read these links properly yourself.

None so blind, eh?

[Duries Air Freshener]

Just now, AsimButtHitsASix said:

None so blind, eh?

Don't put yourself down.