Windfarms - majestic necessities or inefficient monstrosities?

[banana]

Travelling around the nation these days it's impossible not to notice the increasing propensity of windfarms dotted across our green, pleasant, and hilly land.

Do you support the spread of windfarms as a necessary and majestic totems of progress in a polluting world?

Decry them as unnecessary impostors against the nation's natural aesthetic beauty that has helped shape our culture and identity?

Would you be willing to cut your personal energy usage to a level currently sustainable by your preferred energy source?

[Cerberus]

I think they look shite.
Put them at sea out the way.

Don't they kill a lot of birds?
That Ivanpah solar farm thing kills thousands of birds.

Stupid birds.

[ecto]

We are the perfect country for them, until we can harness the power of waves, windmills it is

[banana]

50 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

I think they look shite.
Put them at sea out the way.

Don't they kill a lot of birds?
That Ivanpah solar farm thing kills thousands of birds.

Stupid birds.

Travelling through the beautiful kingdom of Fife is now quite depressing on this note, a good example of the dangers of a cult of progress over everything.

Unexpected/counter-ideology outcomes is always darkly hilarious when it comes to fanatic do-gooders, in this case dead wildlife for environmentalists.

[Richey Edwards]

Clean and renewable energy is always a good thing. They may be ugly things and I would rather have them than having big nuclear power plants pumping god-knows-what into the environment. Oh, and we don't need to look too far back into the past to see how much damage a nuclear reactor meltdown can cause.

If nothing else, at least you can tell your children that tellytubbies live in wind farms which is a bit more reassuring than pointing to a nuclear power plant and saying "that's where Homer Simpson works".

[D.A.F.C]

1 hour ago, ecto said:

We are the perfect country for them, until we can harness the power of waves, windmills it is

Wavemills

[Bandstand]

52 minutes ago, Edmond Dantès said:

Clean and renewable energy is always a good thing. They may be ugly things and I would rather have them than having big nuclear power plants pumping god-knows-what into the environment. Oh, and we don't need to look too far back into the past to see how much damage a nuclear reactor meltdown can cause.

If nothing else, at least you can tell your children that tellytubbies live in wind farms which is a bit more reassuring than pointing to a nuclear power plant and saying "that's where Homer Simpson works".

Nuclear power plants pump steam into the environment 

[doulikefish]

Nuclear power plants pump steam into the environment 

Im sure the residents of the Fukushima area of Japan agree with you

[MONKMAN]

Nuclear power plants pump steam into the environment 

That’ll explain the ghost town of Pripyat.

[coprolite]

There’s no need for wind farms. Still plenty in the wild. They should use the land for more productive farms like sexfarms.

[Bold Rover]

They should position all the windfarms in places which I don't visit.

[Barry Ferguson's Hat]

I like them, largely for the utter seethe they cause in torn-faced brexiters. 

There was one guy in a community Facebook page claiming that if the blades come loose the wind can blow them up to three miles from their original site. He then pointed out that there were two schools within this 3 mile radius so by erecting the wind farm, school children were essentially going to get crushed to death. 

[dorlomin]

The UK currently emits 36% less CO2 than it did when it singed up to the Kyoto Protocol. 

 

We are at the same emissinos level as in the 1890s. Because we have been deploying at scale, we have been building a large number of windfarms, this has allowed us to reduce the costs per unit you get from mass production and it is likely it will be cheaper to build more renewables that continue to burn fossil fuels by the end of the next decade. 

 

https://www.carbonbrief.org/ccc-new-uk-renewables-could-be-cheaper-than-existing-gas-plants-by-2030

 

Lithium storage is beginning to become cheaper than "peaker plants" that is small gas plants that only run at peak times. 

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608273/grid-batteries-are-poised-to-become-cheaper-than-natural-gas-plants-in-minnesota/

 

So the question boils down to "do you accept the major science academies assessments that human sourced CO2 is the primary driver of current climate change and if so should we continue to cut our emissions". 

 

[WeAreElgin]

That’ll explain the ghost town of Pripyat.

They seem to work quite well when they're regulated and some c**t doesn't have the ability to blow them up.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

They don’t even have any animals on them so it’s a no from me.

 

[coprolite]

10 minutes ago, WeAreElgin said:

30 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

That’ll explain the ghost town of Pripyat.

They seem to work quite well when they're regulated and some c**t doesn't have the ability to blow them up.

“Some c**t” including seismic activity in the complete anarchy of Japan?

[banana]

24 minutes ago, Bold Rover said:

They should position all the windfarms in places which I don't visit.

Quite.

A fair bit of virtue-signalling so far, but noone yet answered whether they are willing to cap their power usage to windfarm output, nor have them lining their street or their favourite beauty spots / holiday destinations.

[cambozpar]

Fucking love them, I do a fair bit of work on them all over the world and get payed well for doing it.

i  also dont give a f**k if they are blots on the landscape and are inefficient monstrosities.

oh, and the birds can go f**k themselves as well

[WeAreElgin]

“Some c**t” including seismic activity in the complete anarchy of Japan?

Not sure what that has to do with Ukraine, but to each their own.

[Cardinal Richelieu]

1 hour ago, banana said:

Quite.

A fair bit of virtue-signalling so far, but noone yet answered whether they are willing to cap their power usage to windfarm output, nor have them lining their street or their favourite beauty spots / holiday destinations.

WTF is virtue-signalling? 

I believe that picture is German. And take away the wind farms, it's not a place anyone would want to visit anyway.  We've got a lot more room, mountains ... and most importantly, wind. 

Why not paint them brown and green and make them look like pretty trees? This could be my Dragon's Den moment.